(12-03-2012, 09:36 PM)JonHop Wrote: I think you'd do well to find some reference pictures of men or even monkeys swinging from vines and compare the body and muscles to your image. At the moment it's not conveying that he is swinging on a vine it looks more like he is standing pulling on a church bell intensely. Also the foreshortening of his left arm (one holding the vine) seems off, as does his general body position. So if I were you I'd probably get some reference of monkeys swinging and do some studies ( mostly just quick sketches) to capture the way that a body would move when swinging from vine to vine.


I'm not trying to sound harsh or be overly critical but I think your finished piece would benefit in the end if you get the correct framework down first. Hope thats of some help to you.

(12-05-2012, 07:57 AM)Markdotea Wrote: Wow you did help me a lot! A shame that I already started painting it, but I'll fix the by remaking some parts! Though this Box idea is simple it made me see the torso as a whole new thing, I've been practicing drawing random bodies on the site you sent me! I'll keep doing it, cuz it's tough!
Thanks for the attention and advice!

(12-04-2012, 11:53 AM)Ursula Dorada Wrote: Ok!

What Jon said, I just want to add a bit to it. This is what I would do:



You're not really thinking in 3D shapes, you're just thinking in lines, and this messes the sense of form of the image. This is really important for anatomy.
Think of everything as existing in space. Everything. The chest is this big box, where the arms comes out from specific places. If you don't get the forms to overlap correctly, the arm will appear to be out of socket. Pay attention to where the form turns away from the viewer. The chest, the face, the arm - they all have "corners" we need to learn to see. Placing this "corner", this edge break correctly will also make the torso read as a whole form, and not just a bunch of superficial muscles painted together to appear like a torso.

Hope this makes sense :)
If you can, visit sites like pixel lovely (http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/) and love castle (http://lovecastle.org/draw/), and draw a bit from them every day. Focus on the big forms FIRST - before drawing any muscle, remember you are drawing a TORSO. Before any detail, an arm, and a leg, a head.

Hope that helps!

(12-05-2012, 09:27 AM)Markdotea Wrote:

(12-05-2012, 07:57 AM)Markdotea Wrote: Wow you did help me a lot! A shame that I already started painting it, but I'll fix the by remaking some parts! Though this Box idea is simple it made me see the torso as a whole new thing, I've been practicing drawing random bodies on the site you sent me! I'll keep doing it, cuz it's tough!
Thanks for the attention and advice!

(12-04-2012, 11:53 AM)Ursula Dorada Wrote: Ok!

What Jon said, I just want to add a bit to it. This is what I would do:



You're not really thinking in 3D shapes, you're just thinking in lines, and this messes the sense of form of the image. This is really important for anatomy.
Think of everything as existing in space. Everything. The chest is this big box, where the arms comes out from specific places. If you don't get the forms to overlap correctly, the arm will appear to be out of socket. Pay attention to where the form turns away from the viewer. The chest, the face, the arm - they all have "corners" we need to learn to see. Placing this "corner", this edge break correctly will also make the torso read as a whole form, and not just a bunch of superficial muscles painted together to appear like a torso.

Hope this makes sense :)
If you can, visit sites like pixel lovely (http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/) and love castle (http://lovecastle.org/draw/), and draw a bit from them every day. Focus on the big forms FIRST - before drawing any muscle, remember you are drawing a TORSO. Before any detail, an arm, and a leg, a head.

Hope that helps!