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fun night tonight, sold a drawing for $*** :) and possibly will sell 2 others, buy the gallery will be open till around Christmas. I learned that for nude figure work at least, doing smaller drawings can be adventageous because people dont so much buy based on quality all the time but on size or subject matter. As there were some artists there who were nearly beginners selling work simply because it was smaller! I will also attatch the drawing i sold at the end here, i have more pictures but its just me and people i know so its not super interesting

got some kind words from bo bartlett on a piece of mine tonight, which meant a lot, even if hes just cordial with everyone, hes one of the few people from my area that went that far with a creative career. So much of gallery stuff is political, just who knows who, etc. its kinda mysterious to me because im some poor hilbilly kid from alabama who doesnt know anyone. It really inspired me to get better tho, if i wasnt already inspired enough. Not entirely sure if its a world i want to hang my hat on, but its something to do while i figure out what exact thing I want to do.

I wanna do a lot of studies and hone in on my anatomy more and get a more closer understanding of it so i can be more subtle and give my work a more i guess sheek appearance. And possibly do an illustration soon to see where im at with that, should be interesting, cool day all in all


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Gonna blast through portrait phase 4 on watts, this one was a lot of fun and highly educational about hatching, also sold another piece so i may be able to afford prokos anatomy course soon, which will help me a lot


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Why don't you post the reference in a spoiler you don't know how?

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by all means, i should do that every time so here it is


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this thing kicked my butt today on feature placement. had to doctor it in painter up to where my eye wasnt bugging me. Drawing straight on stuff is a real bitch lol. The eyes were skewed and it really fucked everything else!

 Gonna be getting back to quick sketch and anatomy tomorrow, and maybe do 2 more phase 4 heads next week and then 2 the week after that as these are pretty intense. I wanna try going through quick sketch in pen so i can pay more attention to the mark making, i feel like if i have to manually make the mark with a ballpoint pen as opposed to the lofty charcoal brush marks itll make me appreciate the mark making more


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these heads are looking veeeeeeery nice


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Are you atleast supporting this with learning the muscle of the face to have an understanding of where to put wrinkle if you draw from imagination?

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Gliger: Thx, ill need a few more e's on that very before anyone starts to give a shit ;)

Darkiste: nope but ive studied the reilly method and that works quite well with placement of wrinkles and actually not as well on pretty young faces. you can study portraiture without breaking out an anatomy book

So its been raining 3 days straight, knocking the internet on and off. I purchased proko's monolith of anatomy course with the money i made from the drawing i sold. Its gonna take at least 2 months to get through the sections, even if i do one a day. So far ive done the spine, tracings and pelvis. im trying to be smart with this stuff just watching, drawing from memory, correcting, making lots of notes, its quite mentally draining, but thats what he reccomends and it works

Im posting an idea of what im doing with these slightly messy pelvis constructions, im rusty on that front, but its not too bad, just scratchy. Also doing quick sketch different from my initial try where i watch jeff, hide the picture, draw from memory, correct from the sketch. Again, smart way to learn, very mentally taxing. Itll be fun to get to life drawing and try some of these things out, and i know when i can make a banger fairly consistently then ill be ready to try other things like illustration.


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moar proko, so cool to see how bad i am at this stuff lol. Spent most the day trying to get comfortable since its getting cold, i was like figuring out to humidify the air since my heaters are drying my eyes out. So boiling water and leaving bowls of water out actually helped so that was cool

Tomorrow life drawing, then learning the pecs


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not the best model today, but was overall a fun day; Grindin that proko stuff, i like the encouragement he gives for effective learning in the example vids of just fixing stuff till you get it. So many subtelties in anatomy that are really important, and thats the difference between a good and a great artists is sutbeltey


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good shit, idk if you time yourself but your pen lines seem a bit anxious, have you tried slowing down with them? sometimes I like to see how slow I can draw without losing focus, after a few minutes I start to feel like a shonen character after the training timeskip where you can visualize your own movements and start planing several strokes ahead.


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Gliger; thats a really good observation, its funny like how when i use charcoal im waaay more careful with the line work, i guess its bad habits id accumulated with pen over the years of being reckless. I had seen a clip of proko drawing he did a quick pen drawing but the strokes were way smoother and calculated than mine. lotta weird thing goin on

This pencil doesnt show up super well on the camera, but the pencil ones are my own and the pen ones are just corrections and observations for the breast lesson. I got way more wrong in the pectoralis stuff, but its good to know how that finally works. Abdominals tomorrow. I had this idea to flesh out some face sketches i did about a month or two ago as full concepts with color. I just imagine those faces now with a full costume and the idea seems solid, so i might give it a try soon, maybe at the beginning of december once i get a good distance through this anatomy


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got through abs today, at some points im scratching my head, just really thankful this proko stuff exists because i wouldnt have the patience to research this info as efficiently and condense it all into one cohesive program. Also took gligers advice and slowed down the lines, so the proportions are wrong on some since im trying not to make sloppy lines and be more committed, and yes i know when a heads too small, it bugs the hell out of me.

Correcting to his stuff is enlightening its like, i do my sloppy shit version then i see how he neatly puts the forms together, its a nice set of eyes to borrow as jeff watts would say


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Keep transfering the knowledge to invention not just copying from ref you need the transfer so that the information stick into your brain.Copying is limited compared to construction in my opinion.But you can't ever stop copying because it train the eye to see detail that would evade your eye otherwise.Just keep tweaking the balance between copying and invention.

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Darkiste; yea i read your comment earlier and went to do an application of pectoralis when i realized how i was struggling with really basic lay in information. So i raced back to rewatch how it was done, and i suppose i should mention notes of what i was learning.

The third post is some imagination sketches i did, while realizing i couldnt draw the pecs for shit (or the pelvis)

So the pectoralis has 3 parts, the clavicular, the sternal insertion, and the abdominal insertion, and it inserts interestingly into the humerus' side and goes underneath the deltoid. The thing i kept missing was that the insertion to the humerus is higher up and the muscles overlap with the clavicular on top of the sternal and abdominal beneath that. Having to draw these on top of  a skeleton is a very different challenge to thinking youre drawing it right on a full figure

The obliques are interesting as they attatch to the top of the illiac crest and curve back a bit, there are 4 visible digitations between the bottom taper and the bottom of the pectoralis. the digitations are diagonal compared to the serratus, and the center of the obliques attach to the xiphoid process and halfway from the center from the fourth rib from the top. 

one thing i kept forgetting in my shitty sketches is the 40 OZ or the bottom of the rib, again this stuff is hard because i take it seriously now, i see the value in what prokos doing, its a great program if you got 200$ get it


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It good you know some of the terminology.Remember it not an exam on anatomy.Terminology are important to compare muscle and to speak with people on forum but not so much important when studying.

More practical knowledge such as for example what the difference between a biceps and triceps what the difference between a flexor and a extensor and where those muscle attach and how they are layered are what you should aim to understand because they inform you on shape and function.

Sorry might just be me overeacting to your incredible knowledge of anatomy just wondering if you are learning the right thing.

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Darkiste: knowing insertions and names is important for figuring this stuff out quick. You could learn it without the names it would just take longer and would be less reliable since itd be entirely intuitive and not logical

Some shoulder muscle inventions, the ol infraspinatus and terus minor/major and a portrait for a friend!


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get the human anatomy atlas app for desktop if you haven't, 3d, descriptions of insertions and a bit of etymology iirc, haven't opened in some time, but it was insanely useful to me, especially if you want to dive deeper into invention, and therefore morphology and comparative anatomy.


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Gliger: i will once i get the cash up bruv and thanks for the recc

Holidays...

Back to fedos house of pain, rusty AF

still working through the back section, upper and lower, the lower isnt too hard, its just Lats and erector spinae, which has a cool shape where it widens near the tail of the trapezius, something i had always drawn wrong. I always drew the erector spinae as 2 continous skinny chords that went up under the trap but never thicken. the more ya know. Upper back is a little more challenging because different poses affect the traps and stuff differently.

Prokos also helping me get neater with mark making, itll take some time, but i feel stuff coming back to me, but even 2 days off can get rusty


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