Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff
@ OtherMuzz:  Thanks a lot for your insight and especially for your overpaint! I will heed this in the future. One thing I should mention though, this is a sketchbook and as such almost all drawings in it are just that, sketches. When doodling/sketching a character, most of the time I don´t fully draw out everything (why should I), I try to concentrate on different aspects like look, design and most of all foundations like proportions (yes, designs are not that important when learning how to draw, but I also want to get an idea down) So in the example you took where you point out that the values are the same above and below her chest, yes you have a point there, but that sketch hardly has any rendering/depicting of 3D form in it as it was not intended to be so. Basic rendering was only implied, not executed (it actually has values in all the same places you drew in your first sketch when you crank up the contrast). Main focus was an idea of a character, costume and getting a nice looking face down. So you might consider it an extended line drawing.
As you also asked for a link of what I meant by the ok artist that does it right, but could improve by strengthening the rendering, here you go:

http://gaiasangel.deviantart.com/art/Ton...tion_stack
http://miasteingraeber.deviantart.com/ar...-612322981

They are both ok/good, not without flaws, but generally know what they are doing (especially since the second link is traditional artwork). But strengthening the rendering of the form would greatly enhance their work to maybe something like this which has (next to more dramatic lighting) lots more subtleties in value and a better depiction of form:

http://crow-god.deviantart.com/art/Angell01-558998574
http://chasestone.deviantart.com/art/Fel...5675&qo=12


Trying to see, if I learned something from rendering studies like Bargue drawings by doing 2 portraits completely without reference, taking my time, just from the blankness of my page. Looks ok. Guess my brain did get some of that studying. Could use a bit more reflected light to bring out the form better.



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Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Elderscroller - 01-07-2013, 09:58 PM
RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Annamoon - 01-09-2013, 09:19 PM
RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by gdsworld - 01-12-2013, 11:04 AM
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RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Archreux - 01-21-2013, 04:55 AM
RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Wolkenfels - 02-19-2013, 01:08 AM
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RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Othrandir - 05-10-2013, 01:48 AM
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RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Damien Levs - 06-10-2013, 07:41 AM
RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Wingal - 06-17-2013, 10:34 AM
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RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Tygerson - 07-05-2013, 08:01 AM
RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by MajaD - 07-06-2013, 09:09 PM
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RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Samszym - 02-07-2014, 04:44 AM
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RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Eyliana - 12-16-2015, 03:57 AM
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RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by OtherMuzz - 06-04-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Elderscroller - 06-07-2016, 07:34 AM
RE: Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by OtherMuzz - 06-07-2016, 03:38 PM
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