Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff
@Samszym: No, no, don´t get me wrong! I do not insist on drawing without reference. I know the value of reference and to get a really natural looking face, body, whatever, you need reference. I also know the value of reference when learning/studying, because you cannot possibly know how everything looks. You also build up your visual library when drawing from reference.
What I´m currently doing (besides also doing studies) is seeing drawing from a constructive point of view and I´m also trying to see how far I can go when drawing without reference to see my limits and push beyond them. I want to be able to construct what I see in my mind and refine it later with reference when bringing it up to a finished state.
I have seen many artists that are so brilliant when drawing just from reference, they have flawless observational skills, but when asked to do so without, they lacked the knowledge behind drawing. Understanding the form, proportion, perspective etc. is as I truly believe essential. And to get there, one way for me at least is through drawing from imagination mixed with studies.
Besides, I find it really satisfying to draw something from imagination, making it up as I go :) , no matter if it turns out natural/diverse looking or not, I could always go back and enhance it with reference if I wanted.
Hopefully this is somewhat understandable, I´m not critizising your tipp to do more studies, I know you are right here :) I just wanted to clarify that I´m not a "no ref snob"! Thanks for the crit, it is always welcome!

Here are some more pencils (some doodles from a bus ride and the last one is done with some reference from 4 different women)





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Elderscrollers Sketchy Stuff - by Elderscroller - 01-07-2013, 09:58 PM
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