01-11-2014, 05:01 AM
I am glad for that:) I mean, being used to the various forums, I expected a bunch of ranty posts from people that disliked the series and I really like it that the community here is phenomenally friendly and laid back:)
Quote:Is this a TV and movie show thread or an evangelion diatribe?I didn't see the thread got derailed because of it or that those posts were off topic. Nor I see that exchange as a diatribe. Also, the thread pretty much moved on.
Quote:Speaking of which Doolio you ever seen an anime called Welcome to the N.H.K, watched it years back and I plan to rewatch it soon but in terms of characters its actually a very deep anime, you'd probbly enjoy it :).Ah, Eduardo suggested it to me and I watched it like two weeks ago:D
Quote:love most of Nolans movie, they have that hollywood cheese yeah but in terms of characters they are much deeper then most of hollywood say like micheal bay or emmerichs movies, besides being an addict for crazy villains I fell in love with Heath's joker, the third movie though....speakin as someone who adores the first two, Dark knight rises sucked, Tom hardy was awesome as bane but 99% of the movie felt like hey lets just copy the dark knight and do it badly, I had alot of problems with it, some to do with Talia al ghul but I forgot half of my problems with it, the movies just that unmemorable.Yes, of course, Nolan has nothing to do with Emmerich or Bay, I mean, for me, they are so much trivialized and "hollywoodized" that they are living parodies of that approach, sadly, unnintentionally:)
Quote:And I really need to watch Kurosawa's movies at some point, not just because they're meant to be fantastic movies but also because Yojima inspired my favorite director of all time Sergio Leone, who I will not rant about now because god help me once I start ranting I don't stop.rant? You meant praise?:)
(02-28-2014, 03:50 AM)Doolio Wrote: [ -> ]Ah, Eduardo suggested it to me and I watched it like two weeks ago:Dyeah Eduardo actually reccomended it to me too before I mentioned i already watched it, it was such a long time ago I barely remember the series aside from loving it(I was 13 or 14 when I first watched it I think)
I liked it quite a bit, I think the thinking processes of main character(s) were done excellently. The development of overthink patterns, for example.
(02-28-2014, 03:50 AM)Doolio Wrote: [ -> ]lol, I somehow didn't know that fullmetal jacket was made by Kubrick:) It's one of my favourite movies lol:) I just forgot to mention it.Yeah that movies great, while I do remember the first half being better then the second and the shift being a bit jarring, I honestly can't remember what I thought of the second half of it, I should rewatch that as well.
Quote:Yes, of course, Nolan has nothing to do with Emmerich or Bay, I mean, for me, they are so much trivialized and "hollywoodized" that they are living parodies of that approach, sadly, unnintentionally:)
But, that's exactly why I have a slight "problem" with Nolan. I mean, if I enter the "yay movies pew pew" mode, I LOVE Nolan. But, on the other hand, I have a strong impression that he wants to do something without actually doing it. I mean, for example, look at the dark knight rises. I'm not talking about quality, I'm talking about approach. Nolan kinda tried to criticize pure capitalism and then he was like "nah, I better not" and the result is a messy mess of messiness and blandness:) It's quite hard to try and go non-hollywood while in fact going pro-hollywood, so I think he should decide or simply make quality blockbusters without analyzing much, because he is an EXCELLENT director per se. Or go and make indie movies for million times less money that now, but with freedom to actually do some analysis and question some things.
That's why if I don't enter the lollywood mode, I might criticize Nolan even more than Emmerich:)
Quote:rant? You meant praise?:)lol, I tend to use the word rant to mean just speaking or typing at length about something regardless of if I love it or hate it, don't know why actually it just became a habit of mine at some point I guess.
Well, if you like Leone, then yeah, you should close the forums now and go watch Kurosawa, you'll like it:)
Quote:weirdly I never noticed the capitalism thing in rises, I think my brain was asleep by that pointWell, basically the whole movie is about that, on one side you have catwoman and bane and on the other gotham. And then you have batman, who is filthy rich, but uses that resources to "fight crime", but then again, by being rich, he inevitably is part of the problem because there is only fixed amount of "wealth" in the world blah blah blah distribution blah blah corruption blah exploatation etc. Whole agenda is about that disbalance.
Quote:Speaking of which Doolio you ever seen an anime called Welcome to the N.H.K, watched it years back and I plan to rewatch it soon but in terms of characters its actually a very deep anime, you'd probbly enjoy it :).
Ah, Eduardo suggested it to me and I watched it like two weeks ago:D
I liked it quite a bit, I think the thinking processes of main character(s) were done excellently. The development of overthink patterns, for example.
Quote:Anyway Doolio, I totally get your anti-hype stance. I will raise your anti-hype stance by one anti-mainstream stance. I am guilty of this and so am often dubious about recommendations like this made to me. In fact I begrdugingly watched the wire fully expecting it to be crap and over hyped, but besides one other show, it totally surprised me, which is why I now do what I never do with movies or tv, and that is recommend it to others. I won't go any further because I will leave the treat of discovering it to your own timeframe, but in terms of a non norm character, hardcore bad ass black gay projects stickup dude. It sounds almost like some ridiculous caricature but he was one of my favorite characters in the series. All the characters show real nuance and development and just feel real. It's not forced...it doesn't use "grittiness" as a tool, for example shitty hand held non steadycam camera work that we've all seen...it feels gritty because the characters and situations feel so real. The acting and dialogue is superb too. What happens when you have actually good script writers working for you. Hollywood assholes could learn a lot from this team. It's basically the way real tv shows should be...ie teach you something insightful about yourslef, something about the world as well as be plain entertaining. But yeah, enough said.Yeah, it's very satisfying when you actually get blown away by something you approached like "oh, okay, just shut up already, I'll watch that piece of crap":D
I love Kubrick, I totally gel with his stuff, so yeah funny how different we all see things. Tarkovsky absolutely blew me away. Valhalla rising I enjoyed, but i sensed an undercurrent of trying a bit too hard to be vague for the sake of it which I didn't really like so much.
Quote:Btw Doolio, as the anime buff what do you think of serial experiments Lain? I figure it would be right up your alley. I loved it.It's in my "to do" list:)
Quote:Oh damn also....if you haven't seen it yet... Twin Peaks!!I watched Twin Peaks, but I shouldn't count that, as I watched it when it aired, so yeah:)
David Lynch is seriously messed and awesome. Also what about David Cronenberg stuff? Existenz, naked lunch, the fly, scanners, videodrome etc
Quote:And I like Nolan, enjoyable brain-off food and an entertaining 3 hours or whatever, but if he is the best of the bunch well....for me personally, I'm just so over this lame superhero tripe/meme hollywood just won't leave alone until it's flogged and bleeding and they extract every last cent out of it. Its almost like the two hour or whatever long scene of jesus walking up to golgotha in the passion of the christ, with multiple and repeated slow motion collapsings and gettings up...just put him, me and everone else out of our misery already. What could have been done in 5 minutes was dragged and scraped over hours. I guess i just think most superheros are past their use by date in terms of relevance to current society, but I'm probably in the extremely small minority on that one.I mean for f@s sake, they already treat us like morons by forcing their regurgitated crap onto us, which we seem to keep going to and paying for. I have a brain. I like having it. I particularly enjoy when it is suitably stimulated, not dulled down by the other hordes of moronic zombies that seems to be the target audience of blockbusters these days.
I also don't quite get the attitude of,"if you switch your brain off it will be fun" ala pacific rim and its ilk. And i was so let down considering it was a del toro movie....i mean wtf happened???..pan's labyrinth, pacific rim, pan's labyrinth, pacific rim. What the absolute f@ck del toro? Talk about totally losing your mojo. I actually watched the original Gojira for the first time back to back before watching PRim and I can honestly say Gojira was the better movie in almost every way, including the effects! A dude in a gojira suit is beyond entertainment value :) I mean are we really at that stage with an art form, where turning off your thinking functioning bits is considered a need to have to enjoy something. I may as well just draw hentai or furry porn, tell people to switch off their brains and it will be good, and not worry about a damn thing from then on.Jesus. Don't get me started,
Quote:is considered the "Evangelion" of Seinenahaha, now I have to see it:)