30 Jul 01:13

Jan Kloidt

yeah -.- that obama speech gave me some hope tho

30 Jul 01:13

BrushNoir

haha, there is one coming soon probably so you're good indeed :p

30 Jul 01:12

Jan Kloidt

yeah, and i bought like 3kg of copy paper and 10 sketchbooks too :D totally prepared for the apocalypse

30 Jul 01:12

BrushNoir

yeah, wacom has the cheapest paper hehe

30 Jul 01:11

Jan Kloidt

been in artstores only like 1 or 2 times since i got my wacom :D

30 Jul 01:10

Jan Kloidt

okey, i'll ask for it next time

30 Jul 01:10

BrushNoir

local artstore, I buy them in packs of 500

30 Jul 01:10

Jan Kloidt

I'd love to try that, especially with non-bleached newspaper. love the feel&look

30 Jul 01:09

Jan Kloidt

hmm how do you get clean newspaper?

30 Jul 01:09

BrushNoir

and it's cheapest ;p

30 Jul 01:09

BrushNoir

imo, newspaper feels best for charcoal, too bad it's not that archivable

30 Jul 01:08

Jan Kloidt

as if the tools made it any better

30 Jul 01:08

Jan Kloidt

i used to be in an art class where everyone was using giant paper that's like 2€ a piece with charcoal and everything before even being able to draw a straight line, crazy

30 Jul 01:07

Jan Kloidt

also feels great when you make a good drawing and used such a non-artsy, everyday tool for it :D

30 Jul 01:06

Jan Kloidt

and no shine

30 Jul 01:06

Jan Kloidt

yeah, feels like pencil but darker and without the smear

30 Jul 01:06

BrushNoir

yeah, bic pens let's you start lightly ^^

30 Jul 01:05

meat

Jan: sell them online to get your money back

30 Jul 01:05

Jan Kloidt

they are awesome too, just not as versatile and much less forgiving

30 Jul 01:04

BrushNoir

a sehr gut ^^. luckily I ordered just one to try it out :p

30 Jul 01:04

Jan Kloidt

i ordered so many that i had to pay import taxes on top -.-

30 Jul 01:03

Jan Kloidt

germany

30 Jul 01:03

BrushNoir

that's alot, where you from?

30 Jul 01:03

Jan Kloidt

so versatile, cheap and lightweight and they never smear

30 Jul 01:03

Jan Kloidt

paid like 250€ to import an crapton of hi-tec C pens from japan and now i just like the BIC better :D

30 Jul 01:02

BrushNoir

I use them aswell

30 Jul 01:02

BrushNoir

yeah BIC ftw

30 Jul 01:02

Jan Kloidt

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...-03-26.jpg these are the best pens I ever used, no joke

30 Jul 01:01

Jan Kloidt

just putting down ideas seems to work best with ballpens for me. the rendering process with those is so slow that i'm not even tempted to polish my turds; which happens quite a lot in digital for me

30 Jul 01:00

BrushNoir

well yeah, like pencil sketch, scan and paint

30 Jul 01:00

Jan Kloidt

yeah its crazy :D but the other way around can be really productive imo

30 Jul 00:59

BrushNoir

hmm, not sure if I would like that to be honest