Shout Box archive

16 Jul 10:22

Mechanizoid

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well I don't agree with gun control

16 Jul 10:22

Jan Kloidt

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you give people guns, people will die

16 Jul 10:21

Jan Kloidt

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except having those laws isnt a guarantee in any way that shit doesnt hit the fan sooner or later

16 Jul 10:21

Mechanizoid

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and it is far easier to have an accident driving an object with as much kinetic energy as a car in crowded areas

16 Jul 10:21

Mechanizoid

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and 3. NEVER point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy

16 Jul 10:20

Mechanizoid

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2. keep your finger OUT OF THE TRIGGER until you are ready to fire (at an approved range)

16 Jul 10:20

Mechanizoid

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1. treat every firearm as though it were loaded

16 Jul 10:20

Mechanizoid

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Jeff Cooper's three laws man

16 Jul 10:20

Jan Kloidt

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try stabbing someone by accident

16 Jul 10:20

Jan Kloidt

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its just that pulling a trigger is so easy you can even do it by accident

16 Jul 10:20

Mechanizoid

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Only some borderline individuals, otherwise we would live in the mouth of madness lol

16 Jul 10:19

Jan Kloidt

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yep and people do that aswell

16 Jul 10:19

Mechanizoid

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and guns are far easier to handle even than an automobile, if you practice common sense

16 Jul 10:19

Mechanizoid

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If that were true, we could use kitchen knives and cars to kill too

16 Jul 10:19

Jan Kloidt

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let alone mishaps and accidents etc

16 Jul 10:19

Jan Kloidt

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no the point is that guns need more control to handle than most people have over themselves

16 Jul 10:18

Mechanizoid

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Because just having a gun doesn't make you a criminal? Nor does it imply that you are a violent person?

16 Jul 10:17

Jan Kloidt

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who cares if it is legal or not

16 Jul 10:17

Mechanizoid

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The vast majority of police shootings do not involve legal firearms owners.

16 Jul 10:17

Jan Kloidt

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there is 1 gun for every american person on average

16 Jul 10:16

Jan Kloidt

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015...-countries

16 Jul 10:16

Mechanizoid

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not necessarily

16 Jul 10:15

Jan Kloidt

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which is easy as hell in the us

16 Jul 10:15

Mechanizoid

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And if you have one as a felon, you probably got it through "connections"

16 Jul 10:15

Mechanizoid

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Yes, but you cannot legally obtain a firearm if you are a convicted felon.

16 Jul 10:14

Mechanizoid

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and New York city has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the US, hardly anybody can carry there

16 Jul 10:14

Jan Kloidt

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the attitude doesnt matter when youre in a situation when you suspect the other person has a gun

16 Jul 10:14

Mechanizoid

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also you are statistically safer in a room full of concealed carry permit holders than in a room full of police officers :-)

16 Jul 10:13

Mechanizoid

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most police officers support civilian gun ownership, haven't met that many that have a bad attitdue about it

16 Jul 10:13

Jan Kloidt

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shoot to not get shot yourself

16 Jul 10:13

Mechanizoid

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Nah

16 Jul 10:13

Jan Kloidt

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they are just afraid as hell because everyone could have a gun b/c of these fucked up gun laws