Shout Box archive

13 Jul 20:55

Amit Dutta

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Lots of things might be going away

13 Jul 20:55

Mechanizoid

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From what I hear, though, once oil reserves start getting depleted our days of cheap air travel may being going away.

13 Jul 20:55

Mechanizoid

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Yeah it's all based on profit now.

13 Jul 20:54

Amit Dutta

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The idea of globalism is fine, the mechanism and drive behind it is totally selfish

13 Jul 20:54

Mechanizoid

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It's the drum beating and "us vs. them" attitudes that are the problem.

13 Jul 20:54

Mechanizoid

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Yeah, I don't agree with the kind of globalism that would have us destroy our unique cultural identities.

13 Jul 20:54

Amit Dutta

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We haven't evolved enough yet to enact that

13 Jul 20:54

Amit Dutta

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And that's what flag waving is

13 Jul 20:53

Amit Dutta

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I don't have a problem with being proud of culture and differences, but when it's used as a separation mechanism between "tribes" that's when it gets problematic

13 Jul 20:53

Mechanizoid

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An "us vs. them" attitude, or "I don't give a fuck what happens over there" approach.

13 Jul 20:52

Mechanizoid

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Flags and nations may have been a necessary step on the way from tribes and feudalism, but they often create divisiveness and wars.

13 Jul 20:52

John

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I'm on your side. Both of you. I just don't get why it's still a big deal to wave one's own flag..

13 Jul 20:52

Amit Dutta

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nationality is a bogus construct

13 Jul 20:52

Amit Dutta

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It's a pipe dream, but it's what needs to happen

13 Jul 20:51

Mechanizoid

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That's the kind of crap we aren't gonna be able to pull if we want to be around in the long term.

13 Jul 20:51

Mechanizoid

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You know what some places did when people complained about air pollution? Built bigger smokestacks and sent it to the next county or country.

13 Jul 20:51

Mechanizoid

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Exactly, Amit, we all share one planet.

13 Jul 20:50

Amit Dutta

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I mean that we are not catching up as a species with what we need to do, look at us as one family, one nation with pooled resources, liek star trek lol

13 Jul 20:50

Mechanizoid

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Patriotic rhymes with idiotic. ;)

13 Jul 20:49

Mechanizoid

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When I become World Emperor, of course, there will be many changes. XD

13 Jul 20:49

John

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@Amit: Why is that? What does it even mean to be patriotic?

13 Jul 20:49

Mechanizoid

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Not that they listen to me anyway

13 Jul 20:48

Mechanizoid

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Since I was born in America, I value the ideals of individual freedom our Constitution espouses, but there is a lot of crap 'Murica does that I don't agree with lol

13 Jul 20:48

Amit Dutta

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I think the notion of nations is outdated entirely, but we still beat that drum

13 Jul 20:47

Amit Dutta

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It's pretty true. It's a very insular place. I liked that aspect in some ways, just not caught up in a lot of the insane bullshit that everyone else is concerned with, but there are downsides to if of course. I have no country affiliations btw. Lived in too many places

13 Jul 20:46

John

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Look at how NZ is conveniently placed outside from everybody else. The location alone shows how much it doesn't give a shit about everybody else's crap.

13 Jul 20:46

Amit Dutta

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Not that I'm a real kiwi.

13 Jul 20:45

Amit Dutta

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haha, probably. though kiwis historically have tended to go against big powers that try and exert force. Not so much anymore.

13 Jul 20:41

Mechanizoid

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New Zealand armed its spaceships in defiance of the treaty too, didn't they, Amit? XD

13 Jul 20:41

Mechanizoid

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Not that Iron Sky presented the other countries in much better light lol

13 Jul 20:41

Mechanizoid

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lol I was worried I might get a nosebleed for a moment

13 Jul 20:40

Amit Dutta

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being really abnoxious now