25 Feb 01:08

Nous

It sucks cause he's never there. That's the business model.

25 Feb 01:08

Gliger

Nous, do you have a deviantart or something?

25 Feb 01:07

Gliger

I hate it because it's not 100% sure that you'll get a crit

25 Feb 01:07

Nous

I did that.

25 Feb 01:07

Gliger

you also have noah bradleys art camp

25 Feb 01:05

Nous

Hell now a good quantity pros do livestreams. I guess it's a hussle networking job of kindly nugging these folks to crit.

25 Feb 01:05

Gliger

I've never been to that academy, but it's in the same street where I go to do live drawing sessions

25 Feb 01:04

Gliger

you could also try to get crits from the awesome artists that do livestreams, some of them do them, I think sycra does some every once in a while

25 Feb 01:04

Nous

Real Academia de Bellas Artes de San Fernando - where Dali studied.

25 Feb 01:03

Nous

Ah a big city would certainly have more options.

25 Feb 01:03

Gliger

I'm in madrid for example, there are a bunch of art academies in here

25 Feb 01:02

Gliger

More academy than atelier

25 Feb 01:02

Nous

Where is this Atelier you are referring to?

25 Feb 01:01

Gliger

It's like red engine, although the chances of the teachers being known entertainment industry pros are pretty minimal, just make sure they know their fundamentals really well

25 Feb 01:00

Gliger

and get crits regularly

25 Feb 01:00

Gliger

that's why the 1 hour per week atelier is great, you pay 70 bucks a month (the price decreases usually depending on the ammount of hours you take, if you take 2 hours per week it doesn't cost 140, it costs 120, an so on)

25 Feb 00:59

DanialG

Good morning daggers

25 Feb 00:59

Nous

Exactly, unless you met these people in person or they got to know you some how, but you'd want regular revisions.

25 Feb 00:58

Gliger

that's why people go to workshops, workshops are literally those 2 best things that artschools have combined in one place for a couple of days, crits and pros working live

25 Feb 00:57

Gliger

I know mike butkus is on concept art.org, but I don't know if he does crits, and even if he did there'd be too many people wanting one

25 Feb 00:57

Gliger

you can't compare that with getting one from feng, or scott robertson

25 Feb 00:57

Gliger

Every crit I've ever gotten online was from either a begginer like me, or someone slightly better

25 Feb 00:56

Gliger

literally impossible, I still wish some artists would just do crits online, like, I pay them 40 € and they give me a crit, that'd be awesome

25 Feb 00:56

Nous

Enter the internet and viola.

25 Feb 00:55

Gliger

Nope, crits are the most important, you can work as hard as you want to on your own, getting crits on your own is virtually impossible

25 Feb 00:55

Nous

Or you have mentorship. It depends what motivates you to bust balls, but I have to work too.

25 Feb 00:54

Gliger

It's not usual to get quality crits from the internet, unless you have mike butkus or something like critters.

25 Feb 00:54

Nous

It's also the students and work environment - which are just as important.

25 Feb 00:53

Gliger

the best part about FZD, art center etc. are the crits and seeing a pro working live

25 Feb 00:53

Gliger

you can go to art center for 1 year too,

25 Feb 00:52

Nous

That's it?

25 Feb 00:52

Gliger

just make sure you have 1, just 1 teacher who can give nice crits, and that's all you need, go 1 or 2 hours per week and show them your work