25 Feb 00:52
--Art centre is now out of the question. fzd slightly more realistic compared to the price of the others.
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25 Feb 00:51
--Renaissence quality Ateliers are rare to come by - and they are expensive as hell to join.
25 Feb 00:50
--those 9 months in FZD will look like hell on earth after a week of those 16-17 hours per day, you'll stop being romantic about it in no time
25 Feb 00:50
--art center is fzd but for 4 years, they work as hard. You can go to an atelier 1 hour/week, and still work as hard as the fzd students, AND still get crits, which is the best part
25 Feb 00:48
--she working and studying/freelance art at the same time, whe might have a lot to talk about
25 Feb 00:47
--That's why the romanticism of self taught seems more appealing while holding a job that actualyl makes you money.
25 Feb 00:47
--I go to live drawing sessions a few times a week, and I'll do it every day starting next month, there are cool people there. No one my age, but still, it's nice
25 Feb 00:46
--If it helps you, DO IT, there's nothing wrong with going to an atelier, or art school, same way there is nothing wrong with not going to one, and if you can't pay it, you can go to cultural centers, or find a group of people who paint weekly
25 Feb 00:45
--Discipline can come from competition, fear, or passion. Mine comes from all three of them 20% competition 10% fear, 70 % passion
25 Feb 00:42
--Discipline is a huge part of it, or simply obession from a young age. Yes now if your competing like that in Ateliers then you'll have superstars.
25 Feb 00:41
--Of course, look at effin renaisance, 14-15 students lerning from a master artist, competing with eachother
25 Feb 00:40
--I'll say with the internet and online learning has caused a revolution and it's growing all the time but environment helps a lot.
25 Feb 00:39
--maybe he painted warhammer as a kid, or often visited museums, or did sudokus for fun which activaded some part of his brain...
25 Feb 00:38
--Idk, you'd have to know literally everything that person has done since he was born to know if it was raw talent
25 Feb 00:37
--I still haven't seen talent, so it's completely reasonable for me to not believe in it
25 Feb 00:36
--Luck has some factor, but so does inatness. I'm not saying things cannot be learned if you scientifically apply them to a certain outcome - that's what school is for.
25 Feb 00:35
--Maybe you have practiced lateral thinking more than someone else, or you approach a problem in another way just because of luck
25 Feb 00:34
--Some people just get stuff that others take ages to come around to. Then they are able to absorb and translate a lot better.
25 Feb 00:31
--hehe, but I took njoo`s schoolism class - it is almost the twin brother of his skillshare class :-)