25 Feb 00:24

Nous

Yeah there's the online thing now, and they are expensive courses! A lot of pros are doing the cgma stuff.

25 Feb 00:23

Gliger

but you can also take a course on schoolism or something

25 Feb 00:23

Gliger

If you can get crits from scott robertson, feng zhu etc. on a daily bases, that will make you improve super fast

25 Feb 00:23

Nous

yes gilgler in some ways I have doubt that if I don't go to artschool I;ve missed out on something. I dont why that is, but it's nagging.

25 Feb 00:22

Gliger

just work hard, you can do it on your own, there are advantages and disadvantages to going to artschool

25 Feb 00:22

Nous

Ha, kemp rilliard, Jan Urschel, and Eduardo Pena, say that their graphic design education was indispensible.

25 Feb 00:21

Nous

yes and he developed it over the years. It's important to be surrounding by a good eco-system of artists. If your isolated this can be difficult.

25 Feb 00:21

Gliger

IT'S FUCKING NOT

25 Feb 00:21

Gliger

NO

25 Feb 00:21

constructicon

graphic design is a waste of time imo

25 Feb 00:20

Gliger

are you afraid that if you don't go to artschool you won't be as good as you can be?

25 Feb 00:20

constructicon

luck, hmmmm maybe, but his work speaks is outstanding

25 Feb 00:20

Nous

Yeah but graphic design is an excellent founcdation for concept art.

25 Feb 00:20

Nous

Kemp got lucky to get accepted into the best studio talent in the industry - mb.

25 Feb 00:20

constructicon

he studied graphic design - neither concept art nor illustration

25 Feb 00:19

constructicon

kemp remillard from massive black!

25 Feb 00:19

Gliger

Because pros learn stuff by themselves, they develop their own techniques, and go deeper into some fundamentals than others, they have a lot of stuff to teach

25 Feb 00:19

Nous

I'll give it to Negra who is simply a savant. Jones at least lived in California.

25 Feb 00:18

Nous

Like why are pros taking courses online or going to ateliers?

25 Feb 00:18

Gliger

Anthony Jones and Alex Negrea are better than 99% of other people who have been painting for the same time while going to artschool

25 Feb 00:17

Nous

Even faster the trends are in concept art.

25 Feb 00:17

constructicon

well I`m not really into illustration but concept art

25 Feb 00:17

Nous

I'll say that things are now faster to learn, and trends come quicker in the illustrative/art field.

25 Feb 00:16

Nous

Yeah but think how better these guys could have been - like rigney for instance had to learn all the pitfalls himself, yet with proper crit he may have avoided half the mistakes.

25 Feb 00:15

Gliger

James gurney is from like, 1956 or something, the internet didn't exist back then, not going to artschool wasn't really an option

25 Feb 00:13

Gliger

brad rigney didn't go either

25 Feb 00:12

Gliger

like dan luvisi, alvin lee, they didn't go to artschool

25 Feb 00:12

Nous

Both

25 Feb 00:11

Gliger

Total badass masters? or just high level pros

25 Feb 00:11

Gliger

What do you mean big names?

25 Feb 00:11

Nous

The biggest names in the industry have all had some formal education. Sure we all want to create our own worlds and best of luck to anyone who can achieve that. It takes time.

25 Feb 00:08

Nous

I never even knew Gurney went to Art Center, but that makes it even worse! It all makes sense now.