05 Jul 14:47
--Totally not worth it from the money aspect, but I suppose I got a lot of value out by pushing myself to try something new
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05 Jul 14:46
--I got a matte painting gig a while back. Decided to go 3D for the base...but I ended up texturing the shit out of almost everything, learning a whole bunch of stuff, like crazy intense learning....took me 50 hours, for a 300 dollar gig
05 Jul 14:45
--haha lol. I like pushing boundaries always...might be in the type of projects I agree to take on, or the subject or the technique.
05 Jul 14:45
--Hey Amit do you get out of your comfort zone when dealing with client work? Or just play with what you're comfortable with?
05 Jul 14:43
--I actually find it easy to push with personal work. With client work, man it can really turn around and bite you in the ass, when you know all the things wrong with the piece, and you could totally fix them, but time = money. There are tradeoffs. I always end up doing too much, because I want it to be perfect as I can make it at the time, but my bottom line suffers.
05 Jul 14:40
--I agree pushing every piece you do a little further than before is a great thing to do. I think a lot of artists are perfectionists and people fall into the trap of trying to push too far outside what they are capable of and instead of taking it as a cue for a direction of improvement, get discouraged instead.
05 Jul 14:39
--True. Defensive reactions only happen to perceived threats :) If you don't perceive it as a threat, it has no power over you :)
05 Jul 14:04
--Speaking along the lines of pretend push, that's why I hate myself whenever I do just studies or copies. There's always that tendency to go 'it's only a study' whenever somebody calls me out on anything. I feel like I'm copping out because there's absolutely nothing at stake.
05 Jul 14:00
--It bums me out! But seeing how horrible I was starting out and how I am now gives me a little bit of hope haha!
05 Jul 13:59
--I have that same feeling every time I finish something. "It's good enough". Even though it's the best thing I can produce given a certain amount of time.
05 Jul 13:32
--Happens to me all the time as well, where you just want to end a piece and move on to the next one. "it's good enough"
05 Jul 13:24
--it's actually pretty hard getting yourself to push a piece to the best of your abilities, but I agree. If you can get into a habit and do this with a piece every month, with studies along the way, I think you'd be good to go. And I mean to actually push it to the best of your abilities using all the resources at your disposal, not a pretend push.
05 Jul 13:11
--Here's a more controversial statement! If anybody wants to learn, do the actual piece to the best of your abilities. Rip it apart. See why it stunk. And do it again!
05 Jul 13:03
--Of course, nothing gets done without the application of anything you learned.
05 Jul 13:02
--But the same goes with people who are just studying. There's studying for the sake of studying. And there's a barrier between that and the actual application.
05 Jul 12:59
--Look at felipe's struggle, he's really good at copying stuff, but feels totally lost when it comes to application because he hasn't built analysis into that process.
05 Jul 12:57
--Yup. I think copying just becomes inefficient if done alone with no analysis. Nothing says you can't do both at the same time, so in my view, it makes sense to always combine the two
05 Jul 12:56
--Yup! I agree. Doing one thing and neglecting other practices does that to anyone.
05 Jul 12:53
--copying for the sake of copying gets you only so far, if you don't build analysis into the process
05 Jul 12:51
--I'm an advocate of copying. It's getting your observation skills and accuracy polished as opposed to learning. Copying is not a terrible practice. You're just working on a different set of skills as opposed to studying.
05 Jul 10:13
--Yeah, just copying doesn't seem to help much unless you understand what that master artist was doing when he/she first made the painting.
05 Jul 10:09
--Yeah, thats exactly what "happened" to me - I copied, but learned nothing.