Shout Box archive

02 Jul 06:15

John

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Ah totally. The art was masterful that way.

02 Jul 06:14

Artloader

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Yep - never read a graphic novel like it before - it was like reading a text book - it really pulls you into the story because you don't have to work to navigate the panels.

02 Jul 06:14

John

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9 panel grid. But he combines panels if he needs a longer beat.

02 Jul 06:13

John

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Very rigid.

02 Jul 06:13

John

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Yeah. It's a 9 panel grid system.

02 Jul 06:12

Artloader

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Next time you see it - check out his panel layout.

02 Jul 06:12

John

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Love it! But not so much that I can recall the specifics.

02 Jul 06:11

Artloader

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You read The Watchmen?

02 Jul 06:11

Artloader

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I think the art and the story was there man - just needed to guide the reader somehow.

02 Jul 06:11

John

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The first layouts were a thousand times more horrible. It got better when folks pointed out how ridiculous the layout was haha!

02 Jul 06:09

John

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Yeah. Like a snake... I was being too clever... The whole thing just blew up in my face haha!

02 Jul 06:09

Artloader

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Heheh - two forms of entertainment in one!

02 Jul 06:09

John

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After you're done reading, you've pressed the Konami code in your head giving you 30 lives.

02 Jul 06:08

Artloader

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Ah - like a snake?

02 Jul 06:08

John

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Start from the drinking lady. going right, then down then left then down then right then left.

02 Jul 06:07

Artloader

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So what order were we supposed to read yours in then?

02 Jul 06:07

Artloader

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Eh? Er thanks for the offer but ...

02 Jul 06:07

John

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Haha! That seems too blatant. But damn effective!

02 Jul 06:06

Artloader

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I've seen comics where the artist adds in some arrows to help guide the reader from one panel to the next if they have a complicated panel layout.

02 Jul 06:06

John

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Bah. Eff me in the 'a'.

02 Jul 06:05

Artloader

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Yeah I guess your panel layout was a bit too ambitious - I wasn't sure which order to read the panels in?

02 Jul 05:53

John

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Thanks Loader! But the story was confusing yeah?

02 Jul 05:47

Artloader

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By the way John - meant to say - I loved the clean line work on your CC4 comic - nicely done mate.

02 Jul 05:12

John

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Cool cool cool. Just when I'm running out of things to listen to.

02 Jul 05:11

Brian Hermelijn

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@Artloader Possibly, not sure.

02 Jul 05:11

Brian Hermelijn

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https://vimeo.com/139094998 (Everything is a Remix) yeah it's exactly what you described @John

02 Jul 05:10

Artloader

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Being able to remix in the first place is an achievement in itself though?

02 Jul 05:09

Brian Hermelijn

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Ah. I think there was a ted talk about this... "Everything is a remix"

02 Jul 05:08

John

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Btw, not 100% sure if he learned the guitar or learned how to make songs.. Haha!

02 Jul 05:07

John

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@Hermi: Hey man, Dave Grohl learned how to play guitar with Beatles song sheets before he made it to whatever Foo Fighters are today. There's an underlying Beatles structure to his songs, but his songs doesn't sound like the Beatles. That's how I kinda interpreted what Robert Henri said.

02 Jul 05:04

Amit Dutta

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The basics are the basics...there may be different methods to learn them but you are essentially training yourself in the syntax of the language. After that you can write your own mad haikus

02 Jul 05:03

Artloader

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Yeah I guess it depends on what stage of the journey we're on.