23 Jun 07:45
--haha right
23 Jun 07:45
--i also want to say that im not a nationalist, its just that i want an union based on cooperation and solidarity, not profit
23 Jun 07:45
--beside shoutbox is great since if one says something stupid it will be gone eventually
23 Jun 07:44
--is definitely not something i want to be part of, not to mention the so called trans atlantic treaties with the us that are being negotiated without the people having a chance to say anything on the matter, and so on.
23 Jun 07:44
--dont worry yestarday me john and amit talked about what is considered good or bad and other philosophy
23 Jun 07:42
--a shout box isnt the best place to start a debate over something as complex as this xD that depends on what corruption means to you, but the eu is ruled by a bunch of plutocrats who werent elected by anyone and are only concerned about their own power and wealth, at any cost. A government that spends the cash of the citizens on bribing a tyrant like erdogan, so the millions of refugees their adventurism in syria and lybia helped create doesnt make them look bad...
23 Jun 07:32
--i wouldn't say it's corrupt, but the biurocracy is ridiculous, so much money wasted
23 Jun 07:13
--there is always hope, cheer up :P but yeah the eu is a corrupt, dictatorial regime to enforce the will of certain elites over the best interest of the european people.
23 Jun 05:40
--here is hoping the uk says yes to brexit, the eu cant collapse soon enough, also the south is doomed yes, because the eu yes.
23 Jun 04:46
--Ja, I guess. We will see, economy and economics are not my strongest point :P
23 Jun 04:45
--north will sooner or later form some sort of union otherwise it's an economic suicide for everyone
23 Jun 04:40
--So if we would leave, and import/export taxes go up etc. I'm not sure how well that would go
23 Jun 04:36
--I'm a bit afraid that if they leave the EU, we will have a referendum in no time as well about staying or not >.>
23 Jun 04:34
--they will just take the ingeeniers and doctors and send the plumbers back
23 Jun 04:34
--And if the UK leaves, they can decide which people they want to take in, instead of that they have to take all the poles :P
23 Jun 04:33
--I have a Swedish boyfriend that moved to NL a year ago, no problems. Within a week you have a security number, within a month all essentials are set up. From outside European Union it can take ages to get a permit and you have to add value or a refugee that can't return