Shout Box archive

22 Jun 03:57

John

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It's hard to understand you. Your way of thinking. I think it's a great outlook. I love to understand it. But yeah. That's why people are interesting.

22 Jun 03:56

Amit Dutta

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Start with the Tao te Ching :)

22 Jun 03:56

Amit Dutta

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I'll send you some links to books

22 Jun 03:56

Amit Dutta

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I just am not sure what you are asking, that's all. I sense you are trying to make sense of my own outlook on art/life, all I can say is...PM me or facebook me or something haha

22 Jun 03:56

Hobitt

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what was this discussion about?

22 Jun 03:55

Amit Dutta

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most of it lol. That whole thing is getting a bit muddy for me tbh

22 Jun 03:55

John

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The dick or the dictionary?

22 Jun 03:54

Amit Dutta

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I don't understand

22 Jun 03:54

John

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Which, looking back, was kinda a dick move on my part haha!

22 Jun 03:54

John

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I mentioned the dictionary. Because if it had your definitions, I'd go to it. But obviously it doesn't have your definitions. That is why I was asking you about it. In response to your "It's totally subjective though, right? you can see that?"

22 Jun 03:53

Amit Dutta

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or someone else...taken on faith, or the certainty that is denied by hiesenberg's principle of uncertainty.

22 Jun 03:52

Hobitt

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at the same time i dont know what im talking about so feel free to ignore lol

22 Jun 03:52

Amit Dutta

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observed by you..

22 Jun 03:52

Hobitt

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only thing that is correct is objective scintific data .. until its proven wrong by logic and observation

22 Jun 03:51

Amit Dutta

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Again that's a judgement isnt' it?

22 Jun 03:51

Amit Dutta

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Well I don't know about that Hobitt.

22 Jun 03:51

Hobitt

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all dogma is bad that includes in art circles also

22 Jun 03:51

Amit Dutta

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prescriptive rules for good and bad...as if it meant anything

22 Jun 03:51

Amit Dutta

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That's why religions are so horrible

22 Jun 03:50

Amit Dutta

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That's why I was a bit confused that you would go to a dictionary to get moral codes, when ethics is not universal (at least I don't believe it can be)

22 Jun 03:50

John

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Is right necessarily good? And wrong necessarily bad? I think jerking off on the street feels good. But it's not necessarily right.

22 Jun 03:50

Amit Dutta

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right and wrong

22 Jun 03:49

Amit Dutta

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so yeah when you talk ethics you talk about judgements of good and bad

22 Jun 03:49

Amit Dutta

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Ethics or moral philosophy is the branch of philosophy that involves systematizing, defending, and recommending concepts of right and wrong conduct. (ie good and bad)

22 Jun 03:49

Hobitt

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what is good or bad doesent have an answer ask 100 people you will get 100 different answers

22 Jun 03:48

Amit Dutta

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umm

22 Jun 03:48

John

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Good isn't necessarily tied with ethics. You think they aren't mutually exclusive?

22 Jun 03:48

Amit Dutta

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Hey Art!

22 Jun 03:48

Amit Dutta

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I just meant "good" or "bad" is a subjective thing. A dictionary won't help you.

22 Jun 03:47

Amit Dutta

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yeah you said you'd go to a dictionary to figure out what good meant :) I think I was responding to that

22 Jun 03:47

Artloader

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Afternoon - whoa - you guys have been talking some!

22 Jun 03:46

John

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21 Jun 07:33Amit Dutta-- you'd go to a dictionary for your ethics?
21 Jun 07:33Amit Dutta-- lord