Shout Box archive

01 Jun 16:03

OtherMuzz

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so i get psyched up about doing something, then nope, they want boring.

01 Jun 16:02

OtherMuzz

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It's mostly clients allways poo poo any interesting direction that would make me inspired.

01 Jun 16:02

Amit Dutta

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Yeah I know what you mean! That's the sticking point for me at this time....speed/efficiency. It works at odds with creativity and care haha

01 Jun 16:02

OtherMuzz

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Props to people that can make freelance work for them. It takes an astonishing amount of discipline

01 Jun 16:01

OtherMuzz

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I'm terrible at deadlines, so i'll stick to making products and selling them... works much better for me

01 Jun 16:01

OtherMuzz

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sick :)!

01 Jun 16:01

Amit Dutta

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Totally man, but simple goals are nice. I am working to up my efficiency and speed as well so the realtime rate goes up

01 Jun 16:00

OtherMuzz

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how does it boil down

01 Jun 16:00

OtherMuzz

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nice man. Though it's not about how much per commission man, it's really your hourly rate that matters

01 Jun 15:53

Amit Dutta

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And STILL only making minimum wage or below when taken annually haha..

01 Jun 15:53

Amit Dutta

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Damn, I just cracked my first 1K+ single commission. Was a minor goal for myself this year. Next goal 1,500 for a single piece.

01 Jun 15:51

Amit Dutta

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Some people out there feign humble well, but they are egotistical pricks...

01 Jun 15:50

Amit Dutta

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Very humble

01 Jun 15:50

Amit Dutta

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haha...he is also seemingly such a down to earth guy! :)

01 Jun 15:41

OtherMuzz

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actually no, screw the saints, he is just awesome

01 Jun 15:41

OtherMuzz

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Ian McCaig is one of the best things about entertainment design right now. Man is a fucking SAINT

01 Jun 15:25

Amit Dutta

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On a side note Iain McCaig is in wellington this weekend as the key note speaker in a conference, I so hope I can meet him and get his eyes on my folio too :)

01 Jun 15:24

Amit Dutta

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Ok so expanding on an idea and filling it out with world building is what I take from that. Yeah start a thread perhaps to get ideas about what others do. I HIGHLY recommend Iain McCaig's Gnomon dvd's on Visual Storytelling....It's the best thing I've seen on the subject. Also get the Skillful Huntsman. Great showcase of different concept and pre-production methods/process.

01 Jun 14:56

OtherMuzz

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Yep, start a thread! The more solid discussions there are the more a community can grow!

01 Jun 14:53

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you get tons of great designs and inspiration just by flipping through the pages

01 Jun 14:49

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@meta I usually go to the library (2-3 times a week) and borrow illustrated books (not artbooks) on the subject.

01 Jun 14:32

MetaShinryu

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Maybe i should make a thread to try and articulate this better...

01 Jun 14:32

MetaShinryu

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I do use sketches to develop an idea in the visual sense, what im trying to get a hold of are ways to work from the initial idea and create more things that are related

01 Jun 14:31

MetaShinryu

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Im just trying to get some perspective in order to develop some kind of creative pipeline

01 Jun 14:17

Amit Dutta

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@Meta that's a very general question, and hard to answer without knowing what kind of work you mean concept or illustration or maybe something else ?. For me sketches are used to develop basic shapes and design and composition design (if for an illustration). When it starts getting into detail, then function, narrative and the technical rendering stuff comes more into play.

01 Jun 13:57

KurtJeremy

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Do a google search of mind mapping and brainstorming techniques. Also repetition

01 Jun 13:50

OtherMuzz

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Start thinking deeper, in heirachies. Instead of just what, which is a starting point, start thinking about answering the whys and the wheres.

01 Jun 13:45

MetaShinryu

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How do you guys go about developing a concept/idea after sketches? i find it kinda hard to ground things i come up with before jumping onto finished images :/

01 Jun 13:31

MetaShinryu

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Muzz is spot on about stephen king, personally i have so many damn ideas without fleshing out i cant remember anything unless i cue recall it using images or text

01 Jun 13:29

OtherMuzz

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to be fair with steven king, he is so prolific that he has so many ideas he can afford to lose some really fuckin good ones

01 Jun 13:26

KurtJeremy

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While I do have notes around its mainly for journal use- dreams, thoughts, and sumarry of the day.

01 Jun 13:22

KurtJeremy

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Yep i heard theyre very a sensitive bunch