Shout Box archive

31 May 20:15

Mechanizoid

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Suck up dat pain, Muzz. :D What does not kill us makes us stronger. Like this guy: https://youtu.be/z5KYZ74OAak

31 May 19:21

OtherMuzz

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todays study destroyed me haha. 4 and a half hours on a linework photo copy

31 May 16:37

OtherMuzz

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Exactly mech

31 May 16:37

RottenPocket

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Yo Mech. (Super interesting discussion going on but totally should be working right now)

31 May 16:34

Mechanizoid

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Anyway, I have to get back to work. :) CYA Daggers!!

31 May 16:28

Mechanizoid

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@Adam I think that would mean breaking down big goals into smaller actionable ones. Instead of saying, "I'm going to get better at perspective" (a big and nebulous goal), you might set yourself the challenge of drawing 1 point perspective grids and constructing boxes on them. And then move on to two point. And then maybe try setting a consistent scale. And so on.

31 May 16:26

Adam Lina

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im reading that paper and the bit about reducing the goal specifics increasing learning sounds interesting. But how would you apply that to art?

31 May 16:26

Mechanizoid

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Hi Rotten

31 May 16:26

RottenPocket

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It's not that no one reads theoretical journals but that practicing artists lean towards technical study. Art history and anthropology is 95% reading scientific and philosophical papers.

31 May 16:26

Mechanizoid

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Yeah, the real reason I asked was so that anyone watching could find the page easily. I know how to find the threads created by another user. :-)

31 May 16:17

OtherMuzz

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Not being a lazy bastard in general is a good way to do life

31 May 16:16

Mechanizoid

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I'm confused. If I'm gonna be a lazy bastard I shouldn't go and find it right after asking for someone else to do that work for me.

31 May 16:16

Mechanizoid

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Thanks. Already found it though just after I asked, LMAO.

31 May 16:15

OtherMuzz

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http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7607.html

31 May 16:14

Mechanizoid

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Where's that thread? Link or it didn't happen! :P

31 May 16:04

OtherMuzz

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Exactly. You can read about my thoughts on that in the fundamentals thread we had the other day

31 May 15:52

Mechanizoid

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That makes sense, I need to make the basic drawing skills automatic so my brain can focus on the bigger picture (literally).

31 May 15:52

Mechanizoid

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Like the mechanical skills (straight lines, ellipses, etc.)?

31 May 15:51

OtherMuzz

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lol, yeah the only problem with that is you need to understand that your brain is a thing you need to train to do tasks automatically, which doesn't sit well with people that just want to logic everything.

31 May 15:48

Mechanizoid

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I realized that this was all bullshit when I saw Feng Zhou. :D

31 May 15:46

Mechanizoid

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Like, people used to tell me I should forget about drawing 'cause I'm not the "arty type". They used as evidence the fact I read so much stuff and study math and science.

31 May 15:45

Mechanizoid

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Yes, illustrator types are. This is probably an unfair stereotype that has just been repeated to me too many times.

31 May 15:45

OtherMuzz

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lol mech yeah

31 May 15:45

OtherMuzz

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You'd think that, but as somebody know the science of light. most illustrators don't know jack.

31 May 15:45

Fedodika

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maybe the fine arty people are more inclined to like images and stuff but most illustrator types are cold bone logical folks

31 May 15:45

Mechanizoid

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What is ever worse is when you get a scientist willing to pander to such reporting to circumvent peer review that would shoot down their shoddy research.

31 May 15:44

OtherMuzz

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I just use it to get ideas about what studies to look at.

31 May 15:44

OtherMuzz

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yep!

31 May 15:44

Mechanizoid

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Most of the scientific reporting out there is total garbage, just clickbait and hype.

31 May 15:44

OtherMuzz

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like the paper i gave to artur has almost 2000 citings

31 May 15:44

OtherMuzz

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so usually the top results are going to be pretty good

31 May 15:44

OtherMuzz

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Luckily google scholar ranks results based on citings