31 May 01:14
--Are you guys on a hotter weather condition?
Shout Box archive
30 May 19:58
--Woo hoo! Looking forward to DJ Piotr spinning the Shit Sandwich theme song! And the crits of course!
30 May 19:23
--CC 03 Shit Sandwich stream today Mon 30 @8am (UTC+0) http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7...#pid102141
30 May 17:44
--popped on fb for a minute to check my messages... and one time fb delivered something worth the time. https://www.facebook.com/2mvco/videos/561768214005310/
30 May 17:38
--Every life drawing book is just an abstraction on reality, without the reality to check against, you'll just compound mistakes they made.
30 May 17:03
--Loomis is great, I just wouldn't use his book for in-depth anatomy. He covers a lot of topics quickly which is nice, but it's also good to have a detailed look at each of the aspects he covers. But like you said, look at multiple sources, and also look at real life, not just someone elses drawings to compare how these things actually work.
30 May 15:37
--I stress loomis, because his approach is the simplest and most straight forward. In many ways it lays it out too well and people think that it must be missing part of the puzzle because it isn't confusing. Humans are weird man.
30 May 15:37
--But don't just read one source, read multiple, and try and see how each instructor thinks fits into the others thoughts.
30 May 15:36
--You absolutely should read those. When you consider the discussions we've had, don't you want some input from Andrew Frickin Loomis?
30 May 15:32
--or skip needless long chatters, or do you find there is still snippets of good info even in those long chatters within a book?
30 May 15:31
--I think I have one more questions, lets say you started learning books like Andrew Loomis for example. I notice he usually have a long chatter before he gets to the main point, do you guys actually read those? Like learning with a book from cover to cover,
30 May 13:56
--Because we are all self teaching, unlike in a class environment, you need to know why you are doing something so you can correct problems yourself.
30 May 13:52
--Ah, that makes sense. Like how we learn to walk, and eventually you're just doing it without thinking, or even breathing.
30 May 13:50
--That's fine, i think you maybe didn't understand that if you do those calculations in your brain long enough, they start to become automatic, and your brain is then freed up to do other tasks, like drawing what you feel.
30 May 13:46
--Wouldn't that method better then for critical thinking, at least I recall been more critical when doing dorian/comparative in the past, to the point where my brain started feeling I was doing math... ha.
30 May 13:38
--Yep atelier style copying is amazing! The dorian iten accuracy guide is probably the best resource for it i can think of online though!
30 May 13:34
--which allows to draw at any scale (which is what I practiced before, but didn't continue.
30 May 13:33
--Muzz what about Comparative measuring, I do know that's the method Watts teaches in their Atelier,
30 May 13:32
--@Zest, Ah, yep we will definitely get around to it in the next day or so. Mr Technically Challenged, hopefully saved the stream locally as well, but if not we can hack it into YT through other means :)
30 May 13:21
--In terms of how long do you do it for, just as long as it is really difficult. When you improve you speed up at it. Eventually if you get good enough you'll be able to capture a persons likeness in a few min.