30 May 13:07
--Learning to copy trains you to "see", so thinking like comparing angles, proportions, ect. You know how when you flip an image and it looks fucked? that's because you haven't trained your perception yet, copying is the easiest way to fix that.
30 May 13:05
--No worries, it's something that confused me for a really long time too. Learning to copy isn't about a specific logical skill, only half of art is about collecting logical thoughts, the other half is about training your subconscious to do tasks for you.
30 May 13:02
--Alias will still try it, and see what happens, even though I still have multiple question marks on that method in my head right now. For the practical purpose of it for drawing out of imagination.
30 May 13:00
--Alright, because I do know it does develop accuracy since you're 100% copying, but how can that be related to constructing the figure out of imagination.
30 May 12:58
--But best to ask Muzz if that's what he meant. I can't think of what else it would be
30 May 12:41
--but how would a perfect replica (grid system method) aid with construction of the figure out of imagination?
30 May 12:41
--I am just curious Amit, because I do not know how a 100% copy of a photo, will aid me in a way. Like if you dissect the photo for example, such as forms, or understanding the perspective in the photos, I see that aiding with inventing a figure out of imagination,
30 May 12:40
--I think the time setting on CD are on the fritz. I'm at GMT +10:00 which should be 7:43am but the site thinks it's 12:43pm. Plus with no specification of am or pm i thought the cc stream was now. I have a long history of technological fuckups so it could just be me.
30 May 12:33
--Like how would it actually help with construction/inventing the figure?
30 May 12:32
--:\ , what exactly does that method helps with aside from making learning more mathematical than organic?
30 May 11:19
--You know what, not gonna overthink it, and just revisit Ernest Norling, and come back to the points he made.
30 May 11:09
--Which is making me confused in a way, thus far I gathered that there is 2 exercises he mentioned. One freehand sketching on a 3D surface (like the cushart example) and one with a ruler. And the second one is straight up probably putting a grid on a photo and draw that and drawing from life by using grid?
30 May 11:08
--@Eyliana Not too sure if that's what he meant, since he's speaking of Grid photo copying sparse grid?
30 May 11:05
--it's basically a stretched double helix, right? The tricky part is probably getting the swirls to have the same volume and length if it's foreshortened.
30 May 11:00
--lol how the f do you draw a twisting object like this staff https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236...49b892.jpg
30 May 10:50
--Hmm what you can do for training perspective, I guess that is what you want, find a picture. Find the horizon and try to find the vanihsing points of roads/rivers other objects on the picture
30 May 10:49
--free hand perspective/perspective with ruler, the second exercise seems somewhat vague for, not too sure what he means with grid on top of a photo. Or the explanation is a bit abstract? I think seeing a visual representation can aid what he explains better, hmm.
30 May 10:48
--Trying to grasp the exercises Muzz mentioned, one is drawing the box on a 3D space grid or so,
30 May 10:47
--What exactly is grid photo copying dense grid (like 10x10)
grid photo copying Sparse grid (like 3x3)? - http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7...#pid102113
