Shout Box archive

30 May 07:44

John

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@Hermi The right answer would be the one you choose to be comfortable with doing.

30 May 07:41

Adam Lina

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yea loish's line drawings arnt that great though

30 May 07:40

Brian Hermelijn

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So the question is then which way is right, which way is wrong? Because both of them gets you the same end result, just the other has more lines while the other is minimal. While others even just do the figure in value gesture (villpu) and go with the next layer.

30 May 07:39

John

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I was wondering! Thanks for the link!

30 May 07:36

Brian Hermelijn

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Well I do see artists draw that way, not sure if they do the same for pencil drawing, but digitally they do, however you have the ability to lower the opacity. (Loish comes to mind)

30 May 07:35

Brian Hermelijn

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Oh and in case you wondering which video I am referring to John, https://youtu.be/-ktfwayByRU?t=263

30 May 07:34

Adam Lina

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im with proko, hes being a bit nice about it because he doesnt want to seem like a dick, drawing like that just creates a bad habit that will make your finished drawings messy

30 May 07:33

Adam Lina

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yea

30 May 07:33

Brian Hermelijn

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Not sure if you have seen the video were proko talks about it.

30 May 07:33

Brian Hermelijn

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@Adam, that's the way I used to do it, now I am experimenting with Nicolaides way of doing it.

30 May 07:32

Adam Lina

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thats all you gotta do for line confidence

30 May 07:32

Adam Lina

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try ghosting the line first. take more time with each line and figure it out before you make the mark

30 May 07:30

Brian Hermelijn

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Yeah it does.

30 May 07:30

John

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If that makes any sense..

30 May 07:29

John

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@Hermi Well.. you are putting more lines into your latest ones than your July 2014s. I think the 2014 lines we're more confident, but also provide a less accurate information. While the later ones are not so confident but I think it reads better.

30 May 07:28

Brian Hermelijn

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http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/attachme...?aid=86368

30 May 07:27

Brian Hermelijn

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Did like a review of how I draw boxes (last night), and saw how sloppy I still do them.

30 May 07:27

Brian Hermelijn

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Yeah that's one of the practice in my new routine for next month @Adam, especially boxes.

30 May 07:27

Adam Lina

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if anything just draw boxes turning in space as your warm up each day

30 May 07:23

Adam Lina

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thats good you should start with that as soon as possible. you can still practice your gestures along with them

30 May 07:22

Piotr Jasielski

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streming in 5 minutes https://www.twitch.tv/piotr_jasielski

30 May 07:21

Brian Hermelijn

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This is the new learning approach that Muzz suggested which I will commence with : http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7...#pid102113

30 May 07:20

Adam Lina

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i did the same thing with only doing quick gestures and thinking id perfect that before learning construction but thats not how it works

30 May 07:18

Brian Hermelijn

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And @John Alright. Although I have some others see it, they mentioned the same thing about the poses not having confidence after 2014.

30 May 07:18

Brian Hermelijn

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@Adam I am speaking specifically the gestures right now, construction is what I will be getting in to in the start of next month,

30 May 07:17

Adam Lina

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you need to move passed gestures into finished drawings. finished drawings are where you actually learn to draw. gestures is just the first 1% of a drawing. the next stage is construction.

30 May 07:17

John

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Personally speaking, I think there's progressive growth from year to year. You're tacking and able to pull off much bolder poses (like the legs in perspective in 2016) this year. So... yeah. I think you have a better grasp of anatomy now than the previous years.

30 May 07:01

Brian Hermelijn

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Alias, I will still be putting the advice Muzz suggested in practice, and of course, manipulate to something that works for me.

30 May 07:01

Brian Hermelijn

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What do you guys think? Because I do recall doing gestures with just 1 line (minimal lines as proko suggested), but eventually I have found Nicolaides/Huston way of drawing the gesture.

30 May 07:00

Brian Hermelijn

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Oh yeah, there is one thing I want clarification on, Muzz mentioned that my gestures haven't improve, and stated that the ones in 2014 is more confident : http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/attachme...?aid=86364

30 May 06:15

Eyliana

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Thanks for the CC ^^. Nearly finsihed my image, next I'll finish it in time :)

30 May 06:02

Brian Hermelijn

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Its another member I follow on Permanoobs (Imabalantus)