29 May 15:06
--Yeah. Shall check your answer to my question later then when you're done, muzz. (Posted it in the thread you made)
Shout Box archive
29 May 15:02
--Do not mistake not being gentle with not caring. The fact of the matter is i do get something out of this, i feel really good when i actually help people get over mental road blocks and actually progress. That doesn't happen through coddling, it happens by challenging dumb things beginners believe.
29 May 15:01
--Jak, fucks sake man. If you think that way about professionals spending valuable time to help students, then i really don't feel like helping you. You are not entitled to my feedback or help.
29 May 14:55
--I had been doing figure work for 2 years, and was even half-way competent, and then I did one week-long detailed full body anatomy exercise and it totally blew apart how I had been previously approaching things. I realised how powerful it was applied properly and that I hadn't really been doing it.
29 May 14:50
--I knew and understood intellectually how important fundamentals were for at least a year and a half before I actually truly got it through seeing direct conscious application of it in my work.
29 May 14:49
--The thing I think is relevant also since we are talking about learning, is it almost doesn't matter what advice someone reads...until they actually internalise it with the same realisation through doing/failing themselves. I applaud Muzz for his passion on wanting to jumpstart people's understanding, but it just won't happen until the person (not talking about anyone specifically) makes their own realisation. We read and even understand but don't apply good advice repeatedly on a daily basis.
29 May 14:33
--Yeah, but you care in such an uncanny way, I can't help but believe that you actually DONT CARE. Not about the individual at least. So im gonna go ahead and begrudge you for "caring" Hurry up and talk shit about sycra so we can go on with our lives.
29 May 14:25
--Bad art advice ruins careers. If you don't want to think about it, great, don't begrudge those that actually care.
29 May 14:21
--Who even gives a fuck. Just draw. Seriously. If anybody needs help, I'm sure they will ask.
29 May 14:06
--Also... just another thing, try and draw robots, they don't have the same weird cognitive issues that drawing humans seem to have. it's way easier to draw them in perspective.
29 May 14:01
--This whole thing is bigger than just a few specific artists, there needs to be a cultural awareness for what methods do and don't get results, otherwise this whole forum thing is a bit of a waste.
29 May 14:00
--Thing is dude i understand exactly why you are doing it. The problem is you read bad advice, and followed it.
29 May 14:00
--But to a beginners eye, it may still be unclear due of its rigidness until they fail, and someone point out what the person was doing wrong (like you did in the thread) and how to correct it.
29 May 13:59
--What I meant is you have to put yourself in the shoes of the beginner, and understand why the person was practicing said ways and not the way you said. In my case, I focused solely on the rhythm/gesture, because that's where my interests was throughout the years. It's not until recently, I wanted to learn more about actually developing/drawing accurate figures, which I will commence next month. That's what I meant. Your point is clear.