26 May 00:06
--Well rotten the problem isn't the quanitity of feedback, it's the quality.
Shout Box archive
26 May 00:05
--I'm not saying that in an ironic way either. If you think that's the way to go, go for it.
26 May 00:05
--lord...let's not descend to another convo about the merits of sakimichan bewbs on patreon! :P
26 May 00:05
--yes, this was more a discussion about the problems it creates for people as human beings. If you want to harness the power of social media to build a following and make mad dosh on patreon, you do that.
26 May 00:05
--Well, people can be shitty, doesn't necessarily mean people ar shotty by default. But as far as the when where how and to whom goal of Muzz' art scope, multitask that monster bros.
26 May 00:04
--It's really a whole "waaaah we help so many people, why don't others", sort of conversation :P (including myself in that)
26 May 00:02
--Still say using multiple platforms that are linked across social media is the way to go. If you want to network gotta build the network.
26 May 00:02
--I'm not saying people are shitty. I'm saying people are self-involved and they indulge in that more than anything. We all have the potential to be wonderful, because inherently we all understand what it is like to be human and fear annihilation and death. We are just too immature to deal with it at present. I was barely on the forums around 2007. Wasn't serious enough, but I participated in some EOW's
26 May 00:00
--Eh, just saying humans are shitty doesn't really give us any practical solutions, But anyway i think we have different thoughts on it all.
25 May 23:58
--structures also exist irl... but I agree with you, structures aren't responsible for how people behave, they amplify things, but the ones making the decision to go with the flow are still individuals.
25 May 23:58
--Again, not talking about merits of platform...I'm talking about merits of self understanding and empathy, as a species
25 May 23:57
--It's silly to attribute it to one or the other, it's a complex ecosystem where both affect each other. it's also got self selection bias as the people that are likley to prefer forums go to forums.
25 May 23:56
--forums are better, but this goes way deeper than what platform enables good behaviour...because our dysfunctions as humans still exist IRL
25 May 23:55
--I'm not saying our retarded techno social culture, isn't dysfunctional. :) Of course it is, but it amplifies the negative aspects of our dysfunctions...which is why I hate facebook and all that bullshit
25 May 23:55
--Like where would i post it? Some random thread that's gonna be lost in the sands of time on levelup? or on my art page where it becomes a rant where people in the comments either angrily argue, or show their support?
25 May 23:55
--As somebody that is both on facebook and forums... i almost never give art feedback on facebook and have never had a productive discussion like i have on an art forum.
25 May 23:54
--it's not lke people couldn't have made a conscious effort to change that, but the 'default' can be set by a structure like that.
25 May 23:53
--note entirely, but at least in part. I was in a school where every corridor was closed off to the ones beside it and had its own entrance and exist, and just because of how the building was built there was never any interaction with the other classes
25 May 23:53
--And people are rational machines that take into account rational discussion at all times
25 May 23:53
--Easily, filterbubbles radicalize people because they don't see the discussion
25 May 23:52
--It contributes...for sure...and enables the worst in us...but it can't be all to blame
25 May 23:52
--I wouldn't go so far as to say that everything about an individuum is just smoke and mirrors, but it's definetely important to realize that a lot of it might be.