Shout Box archive

26 May 00:14

Amit Dutta

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RP I was just commenting (complaining?) about how I never got any feedback/advice from pros i contacted ages ago. 2 /100 bothered to reply. That's all this is a result of.

26 May 00:14

OtherMuzz

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btw, that learning philosiphy thing has really opened up a can of worms of me reading phd's and studies about learning, and all sorts of stuff...

26 May 00:13

Amit Dutta

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I agree!

26 May 00:13

OtherMuzz

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That sounds like hell.... nobody should go through those archives.

26 May 00:12

RottenPocket

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Lol, year?.i would have to copy and paste most of recent shoutbox activity to answer that. Was just trying to assist.

26 May 00:12

Amit Dutta

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I think even trawling through the shoutbox archives makes things cryptic Muzz :)

26 May 00:11

OtherMuzz

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Or are you referring to an old conversation from like a year ago?

26 May 00:10

OtherMuzz

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huh how did this turn about me?

26 May 00:10

RottenPocket

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True, espesh in my case, but if i remember correctly this is about Muzz' art philo, edu, blog hybrid thing I'm not entirely sure.

26 May 00:10

Amit Dutta

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Lol that's true. We'll keep you guys informed if he will show up :) Actually this whole thing started, because I lamented about not getting any good feedback or help when I was desparate and hit up all sorts of pros

26 May 00:09

Lodratio

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u can post all you want, if you don't draw you'll still be stuck.

26 May 00:09

Lodratio

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naaah, if you hold off on drawing you won't succeed

26 May 00:09

OtherMuzz

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Well i think the reason why forums kinda exploded, is because the community expanded so much. Can you imagine if craig mullins was to start posting here regularily and handing out crits again. The fabric of the walls would start to tear and implode within weeks.

26 May 00:08

RottenPocket

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If you're holding off posting for the mere speculation that the quality of feedback is going to be shit, then immedoately you don't suceed.

26 May 00:08

Amit Dutta

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I apologise

26 May 00:07

Amit Dutta

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Ok I'm becoming Mechanizoid

26 May 00:07

Amit Dutta

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can I change my username...? where's Dennis?

26 May 00:07

RottenPocket

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Shh

26 May 00:07

Amit Dutta

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mmm nut bucket

26 May 00:07

RottenPocket

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Yes but you can't sort the good nuts from the bad wothout gathering a whole bucket.

26 May 00:07

Amit Dutta

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True Muzz!

26 May 00:06

OtherMuzz

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Any forum worthwhile needs to have a good ratio of pros/beginners, when it skews too much for the pros to cope with, it goes south fast.

26 May 00:06

RottenPocket

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One thing to consider is the tools people are using. I for one use my smartphone 90% of the time because I'm on the move and most if not all forums (including daggers) are not mobile device friendly.

26 May 00:06

Amit Dutta

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or the inclination to provide it in the first place, even when asked

26 May 00:06

Amit Dutta

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Yep

26 May 00:06

OtherMuzz

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Well rotten the problem isn't the quanitity of feedback, it's the quality.

26 May 00:05

Lodratio

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I'm not saying that in an ironic way either. If you think that's the way to go, go for it.

26 May 00:05

Amit Dutta

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lord...let's not descend to another convo about the merits of sakimichan bewbs on patreon! :P

26 May 00:05

Lodratio

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yes, this was more a discussion about the problems it creates for people as human beings. If you want to harness the power of social media to build a following and make mad dosh on patreon, you do that.

26 May 00:05

RottenPocket

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Well, people can be shitty, doesn't necessarily mean people ar shotty by default. But as far as the when where how and to whom goal of Muzz' art scope, multitask that monster bros.

26 May 00:04

Amit Dutta

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:P

26 May 00:04

OtherMuzz

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lol