Shout Box archive

25 May 10:56

RottenPocket

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Say a frame casts a shadow and a vase bounces light of a different hue into it but of the same value.

25 May 10:56

MetaShinryu

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depends, what do you mean by work?

25 May 10:55

RottenPocket

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Colour and value can work independently though, can't they?.

25 May 10:54

MetaShinryu

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Combine that definition of ambient/reflective light with the general rule of "cast shadows are halfway to black the color of midtone" and you got realistic values

25 May 10:54

RottenPocket

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1st class education. "You're doing it wrong, stop that."

25 May 10:53

BrushNoir

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yeah, never really got explained anywhere, they just say don't paint black ;')

25 May 10:52

MetaShinryu

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Yeah, its one of those things you realize with practice

25 May 10:51

RottenPocket

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So that's why and how nothing should be painted as flat black, I'm guessing. Something i was taught but it was never explained.

25 May 10:47

MetaShinryu

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I think of ambient light as "the light that fills the shadows of ALL objects", while reflected light is "the light that bounces from - and fills the shadows of - objects close to eachother"

25 May 10:46

BrushNoir

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nice vids! Thank you

25 May 10:42

Adam Lina

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i think he talks more about light in the 2nd and 3rd videos

25 May 10:39

Adam Lina

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ron lemen has some videos on rendering that i thought were helpful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pd0xqPzKCc

25 May 10:37

BrushNoir

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yea

25 May 10:37

Adam Lina

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its like everything thats in the light is its own secondary light source

25 May 10:35

Adam Lina

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that makes sense

25 May 10:34

BrushNoir

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How I see it now is that ambient light is more like sky light (planes facing up) and bounce light is planes facing down. reflective from surrounding objects. Sorry if I'm confusing you :p

25 May 10:33

Adam Lina

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yea you could think of it that way i guess

25 May 10:32

Jun

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Doesn't ambient light affect the whole scene, but reflective is more local?

25 May 10:32

Adam Lina

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i just think of it as light bouncing around

25 May 10:32

Jun

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I think there might be slight difference between reflective and ambient light

25 May 10:32

BrushNoir

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haha pfew :p I got it now, thanks!

25 May 10:32

Adam Lina

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oh yea i guess so lol

25 May 10:31

BrushNoir

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Dang it, thought I figured it haha now you lost me :p. Wouldn't that be reflective light?

25 May 10:31

Adam Lina

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its the lighter part of a shaded area

25 May 10:30

Adam Lina

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ambient light can be in shadows

25 May 10:29

Jun

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Most of my knowledge comes from 3D work, so I got a little confused there.

25 May 10:28

BrushNoir

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cool, thing is it got me confused cause of a tutorial. The guy was painting ambient light he said but he was just painting shadows and AO

25 May 10:28

Adam Lina

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yea you can have ambient light from any light source

25 May 10:28

Jun

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?*

25 May 10:28

Jun

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Sky light = Ambient Lighting

25 May 10:28

Jun

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Ah, right.

25 May 10:27

Adam Lina

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ambient light is light thats bouncing from one surface to another so the strength of the light is diminished