Shout Box archive

22 May 07:16

Jun

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Core exercises are fine, too \o/

22 May 07:15

Jun

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Oh, well. Have you looked into r/bwfitness programs?

22 May 07:15

Brian Hermelijn

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What I mean with burn myself out is, doing too many exercises at once. For now I will be focusing on the core exercises, and slowly add more.

22 May 07:15

Jun

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I'm pretty sure it's actually _better_ to not burn yourself out.

22 May 07:14

Jun

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You don't need to burn yourself out

22 May 07:14

Brian Hermelijn

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and eventually burn myself out.

22 May 07:14

Brian Hermelijn

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That's what I did in the past doing the most complex exercises instead of the basic ones (same way with art)

22 May 07:13

Brian Hermelijn

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Starting small. Not gonna make it to complex, but slowly add exercises along the way.

22 May 07:08

Jun

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*for legs

22 May 07:05

Jun

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I see. @Hermi Nice fitness goals. Might want to add dips, although proper tricep pushups do work the triceps. Lunges are good, too.

22 May 06:49

Brian Hermelijn

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That's just me of course.

22 May 06:45

Brian Hermelijn

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If I were going to do this all over again, I would start with Keys to Drawing Kert Dudson.

22 May 06:44

Brian Hermelijn

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Well for me at least, I bought the book. Thought it will teach me anything, it didn't. Because I already had the confidence to begin with, and that's what the book teaches I feel. Just confidence.

22 May 06:41

Jun

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I'm thinking of picking it up

22 May 06:40

Jun

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Has anyone read "Drawing on the right side of the brain"? I hear mixed things. Some say it's great, some say it's fine, and some say it's useless and overthinking art.

22 May 06:34

Brian Hermelijn

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But that can be applicable to anything jobs that requires you to sit all day,

22 May 06:32

Brian Hermelijn

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Not sure if anyone seen jeff watts talks about the book over Mastery, but this parts speaks about how to keep yourself energized as an artist : https://youtu.be/ZNwhwhkZuus

22 May 04:11

OtherMuzz

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Yeah with diagrams and angry gifs!

22 May 04:11

Brian Hermelijn

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And this definitely needs a thread of its own I feel. :+1:

22 May 04:09

Brian Hermelijn

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I think we might be making the concept a bit too complex, instead of simpler terms. But yeah. Gonna go finish up some things for now, talk to you guys later. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

22 May 04:08

OtherMuzz

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one last thought. Trial and error is like lego. Fundementals are the bricks you have. You work out the coolest stuff to build out of the bricks you have, or you can go out and get more bricks and then build something really cool

22 May 04:07

Brian Hermelijn

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What if I draw the form this way, and not that way? What if I make it smaller? What if I make it longer etc etc. You will start figuring what works and what doesn't work in a way.

22 May 04:06

Brian Hermelijn

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I also see what you mean lodratio, like asking your self "what if... "

22 May 04:03

Lodratio

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have fun!

22 May 04:02

Lodratio

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Ya, that's a good idea

22 May 04:02

OtherMuzz

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anyhow i need to go draw

22 May 04:02

OtherMuzz

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I think trial and error in the form of play certainly has a lot of merit, but it is the worst way to teach yourself fundementals.

22 May 04:02

Lodratio

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those kinds of things can come from a book, or you can come up with them yourself

22 May 04:01

Lodratio

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trial and error can also mean doing sculpting to figure out forms, or thinking about shadows and light instead of symbols

22 May 04:01

Lodratio

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Maybe he isn't developing principles, and just pushing symbols around the same way he always has. I think you're limiting your definition of trial and error to 'approaching things with the same process over and over again until you get them right'

22 May 04:00

OtherMuzz

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Truth of the matter is that i was doing the wrong thing for a very very long time... and in a lot of ways im just trying to get others to not do the same stupid things.

22 May 03:59

OtherMuzz

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I also have the same experience with drawing faces, and i took years to learn how to do it because i was too stubborn to realise that i actually didn't understand form properly, and the only way to fix that was careful observation and study.