18 May 19:41

Mechanizoid

@zest LOL

18 May 19:41

Amit Dutta

Makes a nice quote though

18 May 19:41

Jun

You'll forget that quote in 5 hours anyways.

18 May 19:41

Hobitt

you do want to push yourself past your comfort

18 May 19:40

Amit Dutta

hmmm. I don't really subscribe to the "unless it hurts, it's no good." attitude

18 May 19:40

Mechanizoid

Awesome quote!

18 May 19:40

John

Hey Jan! Great quote!

18 May 19:40

Hobitt

sadly i cant memorize everything in this world

18 May 19:40

Jan Kloidt

neat practice mindset http://i.imgur.com/1HMgmX4.png

18 May 19:39

Hobitt

yeah i started using ref for designs

18 May 19:39

Amit Dutta

Hey Hobs!

18 May 19:39

Mechanizoid

concept space gats :)

18 May 19:39

Mechanizoid

I want draw gats

18 May 19:39

John

There's an artist named Greg Land who's getting shit on because of that.

18 May 19:39

Mechanizoid

You use refs to build your visual library

18 May 19:39

Amit Dutta

Most of the uber pros I have met boil down all of their crits to developing artists to two things. Learn to draw better. Use Reference

18 May 19:39

John

@Mech Because there's a perception that you're not a great artist but instead a copier if you rely heavily on refs.

18 May 19:38

Hobitt

whatup amit

18 May 19:38

Amit Dutta

I forget the question...but yeah still works :)

18 May 19:38

Mechanizoid

YES

18 May 19:37

Hobitt

yea what amit sed

18 May 19:37

Hobitt

but like i sed NEVER MESS UP PERSPECTIVE

18 May 19:37

Amit Dutta

the answer is always: do both.

18 May 19:37

Hobitt

yeah its good to practice that

18 May 19:37

Mechanizoid

Dunno why people think that LOL

18 May 19:37

Mechanizoid

That thing about ref is BS though, you gotta use ref

18 May 19:36

Mechanizoid

You dunno how you'd be drawing if all you did was use a ruler and never practice ghosting lines etc.

18 May 19:36

John

I started out thinking using reference for pieces were cheats.

18 May 19:36

Mechanizoid

Yeah, but you'll have all that practice freehand behind you

18 May 19:36

Hobitt

just keep doing what youre doing and after 3 or 4 years you will change your mind

18 May 19:35

Hobitt

ahh i see when i started i also was very dogmatic NO CRUTCHES ALL FREEHAND NO CHEATING

18 May 19:35

Mechanizoid

NO MORE STUDYITIS