16 May 20:25

Hobitt

i found when i doubt always go back to fundamentals

16 May 20:25

John

@Amit A million thanks and a vegetarian treat as monks tend to say!

16 May 20:24

Hobitt

the ups and downs of it is constant

16 May 20:24

Hobitt

yeah i have to agree if you didint consider quitting alteast a few time you are still not far in your art journey

16 May 20:24

John

Huge Karla Ortiz fan. And her uncle. Tito Ortiz.

16 May 20:23

Amit Dutta

https://vimeo.com/165881946

16 May 20:23

John

@Amit You serious? Where did you get that?

16 May 20:23

Hobitt

interesting never went to university always was the book learning kind

16 May 20:22

John

Preferably! With a spanish accent!

16 May 20:22

RottenPocket

Philosophy, Reason and Logic in senior year lol

16 May 20:22

Amit Dutta

"You're not an artist until you want to quit at least once" Karla Ortiz's dad :)

16 May 20:22

John

@RP You can call me Senior Philo anytime ;)

16 May 20:22

RottenPocket

And that's how contemporary art was born.

16 May 20:22

Lodratio

who's phi/lo?

16 May 20:21

Hobitt

well if art would be a set of concrete rules i wouldnt do it that would imply you can elarn everything

16 May 20:21

RottenPocket

I miss senior PHI/LO ;.;

16 May 20:20

John

@Lod: Oh god, I'm getting flashbacks of old philosophy classes. Those moments I know I'm reading something smart my brain just stops comprehending. Haha! Hoo boy...

16 May 20:20

RottenPocket

well bread gets baked one way and the aim is consistency, For growth and change you leave that for innovators.

16 May 20:19

Hobitt

lack of growth in a proffesion kills the interest for me

16 May 20:19

Hobitt

altough the great thing is that you never feel satisfied that what i love in art in a way you never get to a point where you know it all

16 May 20:19

Lodratio

the backbone of my argument is that the time in their life when people make the most progress is when they are children, since that is when they care the least about the results, and simply try earnestly to move forward without fear.

16 May 20:18

Hobitt

iterate a lot not repeat a lot repetition implies that you jsut need to repeat everything without change

16 May 20:17

Hobitt

yeah iteration is the correct word here

16 May 20:17

Lodratio

@john maybe we agree, but we define repetition differently. Imo repetition isn't the same as doing variations of a thing in iterations. It's doing things the same way and only making minimal adjustments.

16 May 20:17

Hobitt

art is not about muscle its about the brain

16 May 20:17

RottenPocket

Hopefully I'm not just bouncing off points already made, I'll have to read back some more, but I will say The comment on doing the same thing over and over not getting you anywhere is oversimplified and untrue. Any profession requires the experience of trial and repetition.

16 May 20:16

John

I agree. Work hard isn't merely leg work.. I think a lot of people misinterpret that line.

16 May 20:15

Hobitt

work smart and hard in a perfect world

16 May 20:15

Hobitt

dont fall for the work hard repeat over and over it does not work well its a stupid idea

16 May 20:14

Hobitt

and im talking about studies too not doodles

16 May 20:14

Hobitt

and yet im not that good

16 May 20:14

Hobitt

ive put in the milage i finished so many stacks of printer paper (500 pages) that i lost count