Shout Box archive

16 May 20:02

Amit Dutta

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Sure then, I'm a pro artist. lol. The desire to become pro, or rather the FEAR that I wouldn't , was actually holding me back. When I got rid of that, everything just worked out.

16 May 20:02

Lodratio

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One other thing to consider about 16 hour days: The longer and the more consistently you do something the more it becomes routine, and the more you become unable of changing that routine the more you get stuck. Art isn't like weightlifting. You don't get 'gains' just by doing the same thing over and over again acording to a strict plan.

16 May 20:02

Hobitt

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well yeah thats waht pro means proffesional aka thats your proffesion aka source of income

16 May 20:01

Amit Dutta

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Well yeah I am doing it as my main source of income....so pro in that sense.

16 May 20:01

John

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@Amit Wait, aren't you pro? Or you just don't consider yourself to be?

16 May 20:01

Hobitt

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in the end its just a 3d illusion on a 2d plane but there is so much potential

16 May 20:00

Hobitt

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honestly i do art because i find it interesting there something in it that fascinates me

16 May 20:00

Amit Dutta

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I actually made the biggest leap forward in my "head game" with art, when I gave up all hope of ever becoming pro. Sounds odd, but it worked. The desire was screwing me up entirely

16 May 19:59

John

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This is a stupid thing to say. But people doing anything because they are simply motivated will taper off. Motivation is a fleeting thing.

16 May 19:59

OtherMuzz

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seriously 1 hour of drawing really hard shit a day is waaaaay better than 16 hours of sketches

16 May 19:59

Hobitt

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yeah and i did that too i drew 12 hours a day for years and i wouldnt say those hours were the most productive

16 May 19:59

Amit Dutta

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That's when shit starts to go weird

16 May 19:58

OtherMuzz

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yeah don't draw 16 hours a day. that is how you spin your wheels

16 May 19:58

Amit Dutta

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yep...art cannot be your only identity

16 May 19:58

OtherMuzz

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If you require art to live, then admitting to yourself that you have major flaws in your approach can be impossible, because it is undermining yourself. You need to be a valid person without art.

16 May 19:58

Lodratio

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and it's complete bullshit.

16 May 19:58

Amit Dutta

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:)

16 May 19:58

Hobitt

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i heard many people say that without irony

16 May 19:58

Amit Dutta

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That's just plain dumb

16 May 19:58

Hobitt

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yeah its a fairly popular opinion too that if youre not drawing 16 hours a day you are not gonna make it

16 May 19:57

Lodratio

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Agreed 100%. I know that's why I'm not making as much progress with things that matter to me. It's so much easier to see your own mistakes and correct them, when you aren't afraid of admitting to yourself how far you have to go.

16 May 19:56

Hobitt

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well no matter waht im in for the long run ill never quit art

16 May 19:56

Amit Dutta

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All I can say guys, is I've been through this whole retarded head game....and I have come out the other side with zero fear of failure or whether people like my work or not. You DO NOT need that as motivation

16 May 19:55

Lodratio

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if something matters to you, the thought of not succeeding at it is terrifying

16 May 19:55

Lodratio

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fear of failure is real fear

16 May 19:54

Amit Dutta

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Are we talking real fear, or just stress about not being able to pay bills. That's not fear, that's just stress

16 May 19:54

Lodratio

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I'm telling you hobitt. moving forward with desire and fear is a strong drive, but it can crush you.

16 May 19:54

Hobitt

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but it can mess with your head from time to time

16 May 19:54

Hobitt

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yeah fear is a great motivator

16 May 19:54

John

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I disagree with Amit. Fear works for me. It's a great fuel! You'd be clinging on your art rope when you know there's a million sharks waiting to feed on your remains when you drop. Haha!

16 May 19:53

Amit Dutta

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You have to in some sense enjoy the struggle and the hard parts and the sacrifice just as much as you enjoy the good stuff

16 May 19:53

Hobitt

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well life isint misery but it does get weird at times