15 May 06:28
--thanks for joining guys, taking 30; be right back
15 May 01:27
--i'd rather see pens on paper improving, honestly. Nothing makes me happier seeing people reach their own goals.
15 May 01:26
--Admit it Muzz. I know you love rolling in the mud with me. I'm the Joker to your Batman.
15 May 01:24
--What kind of accusation is this? You think I was leading the argument away to something else entirely? Jesus Christ Muzz..
15 May 01:20
--that's good advice.... why would it ruffle my feathers... Again. stop making strawmen dammit haha.
15 May 01:19
--Just to ruffle Muzz's feathers a bit http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/uploaded_...749469.jpg
15 May 01:18
--I now present a video to completely change the topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSkAt3I908k
15 May 01:14
--This is a good rebuttal to any argument http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/use...FkYzJk.png
15 May 01:13
--but these arguments or others haven't been made, and so it was really just running in circles
15 May 01:11
--I mean there are possible arguments to defend gesture drawing as a start like, / it's a good warmup, and gets people more comfortable with just drawing, it helps people improve lines and not be so stilted or maybe that it is teaching form and proportion at the same time, and relating it back to something relatable.
15 May 01:09
--eh that's not what this is man, i have debates and discussions to further my knoledge, people see me as bullheaded, but if you look at my opinions over time, pretty much everything i thought i knew has been swayed by good debate
15 May 01:09
--In the end I love Muzz's integrity. I really do. See how passionate he was defending his stance?