15 May 01:11
--I mean there are possible arguments to defend gesture drawing as a start like, / it's a good warmup, and gets people more comfortable with just drawing, it helps people improve lines and not be so stilted or maybe that it is teaching form and proportion at the same time, and relating it back to something relatable.
15 May 01:09
--eh that's not what this is man, i have debates and discussions to further my knoledge, people see me as bullheaded, but if you look at my opinions over time, pretty much everything i thought i knew has been swayed by good debate
15 May 01:09
--In the end I love Muzz's integrity. I really do. See how passionate he was defending his stance?
15 May 01:08
--i only just learnt that having your pride in your art directly attached to your self esteem is a bad idea >_>
15 May 01:08
--The problem for you Muzz is to distance yourself from this learning! Seriosuly. The moment you identify with shit you think you know....that's when problem in miscomunication happens
15 May 01:07
--I'm reading all of these as if you guys are actually shouting at each other.
15 May 01:06
--The reason why i even try and help, is that my art journey was full of bullshit advice that sent me down years of emotional issues causing stagnation and fustration.
15 May 01:05
--aaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh what's the point of textbooks in the first place if one method isn't superior to another
15 May 01:02
--Exactly. Who the fuck cares if one starts with gesture. Or forms. That's the point I'm trying to make. Not one is superior to the other.
15 May 01:02
--John, the point I guess is more about what you think is more imporant for you at the time. Sometimes gesture will provide benefits, sometimes fundametal structure will help more. can't generalise for everyone really, if we are talking self teaching
15 May 01:01
--like if jason chan got good by copying picasso's entire art history starting from abstraction going back to realism, that doesn't make it the best way to learn.
15 May 01:00
--it's about what is efficient, not what joe blogs did regardess of effficiency.
15 May 01:00
--Anyhow, got the info I needed, getting back to drawing. Talk to you guys later, cheers.
