Shout Box archive

15 May 00:51

Brian Hermelijn

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Wth.

15 May 00:50

Amit Dutta

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What are we supposed to be debating? Sorry haven't been keeping track

15 May 00:50

crackedskull

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lol muzz

15 May 00:50

John

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Haha

15 May 00:49

John

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You just don't like them haha

15 May 00:49

John

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Or inferior.

15 May 00:48

John

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Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they are wrong.

15 May 00:48

OtherMuzz

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But yeah man, I can find examples of images i like without perfect form, it's the difference between artists that know how to draw form and being sloppy vs not knowing how to do it at all. Do i need to start pulling out the horror stories of artists that never learnt to draw form lol?

15 May 00:47

John

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And a finshed piece. And a child doodling. And a chicken. There's a difference in all of them

15 May 00:46

Amit Dutta

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only 3am

15 May 00:46

OtherMuzz

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Isn't it 4 am where you are amit haha?

15 May 00:45

Amit Dutta

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

15 May 00:44

OtherMuzz

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There is a difference between a sketch and an academic study,

15 May 00:42

John

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I didn't say there wasn't

15 May 00:42

John

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I mean, as clean as you were suggesting it should

15 May 00:42

John

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There is perspective. It just isn't as clean as it should be

15 May 00:42

OtherMuzz

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This is just telling me you don't understand what perspective is

15 May 00:42

John

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Newp.

15 May 00:41

John

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Is it then perfectly aligned with a single focal point?

15 May 00:41

OtherMuzz

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Easy, That is just 1 point perspective with lens distortion

15 May 00:41

John

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Kinda surprised you lumped in Ashley Wood haha

15 May 00:40

John

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Try and put a perspective grid on this bad boy http://www.mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploa.../there.jpg

15 May 00:40

OtherMuzz

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Speaking of Arne, His art tutorial is legendary. http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm I didn't understand jack until i read that. In fact marco nelor said that as well when he saw it up on my screen last year too at bali.

15 May 00:36

OtherMuzz

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if you are curious about the guys i look up to, just to give you an idea for where i come from, Arne niklas Jansen, Helen Chen, Rob Laro, Pior Oberson, Yoh Yoshinari, Keith Thompson, Chris Sanders, Ashley Wood, Kai Lim, Ian Mckaig, Jason Chan, Wes Burt, The black frog, Coro....

15 May 00:34

John

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Cause, you know, color is sorta synonymous to light.

15 May 00:34

OtherMuzz

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Loish is great!

15 May 00:33

John

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Ok then Muzz. At least give me Loish. You think Loish's light and color rendering resembles the real world? Those pastelly colors?

15 May 00:33

OtherMuzz

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No worries john, Maybe i should make it clear that when i talk with such strong conviction that i am talking very clearly about realism based illustration, not flat 2d work or impressionism.

15 May 00:32

Brian Hermelijn

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But what you're saying do make sense though, about the form.

15 May 00:31

Brian Hermelijn

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(Walent is on this forum) Pretty sure you might have seen his sketchbook, he has been here for a while.

15 May 00:31

Brian Hermelijn

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In my case no, but I do practice form. And it will always be something that I practice, just the goal for me in my case, would be to still have like some of the rhythms within the characters, if you're familiar Walent, Muzz, then that's the ideal place for me at least.

15 May 00:30

John

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We're not? You should've had stopped me when I mentioned John K's name haha