Shout Box archive

13 May 15:07

Amit Dutta

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Got just the perfect piece coming up, which will be real complex. I will see if I can bang it out better with some nice lines. I pretty much hate doing lines on my tablet.

13 May 15:07

John

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Here's to hoping the Magic Wand actually works like a magic wand in the next update.

13 May 15:06

Amit Dutta

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or none at all sometimes.

13 May 15:06

Amit Dutta

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Yeah, I should give it a proper go. I do half assed lines.

13 May 15:04

OtherMuzz

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Get good lines and your client work will be a breeze.

13 May 15:04

OtherMuzz

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Linework man.

13 May 15:03

Amit Dutta

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NOW speed really is starting to matter

13 May 15:02

Amit Dutta

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Haha. My own struggle at the moment, is frikkin getting client work out quicker! Every piece takes at least a week.. mostly even longer because of waiting for feedback. It ain't good enough. For my personal shiz, I can bang out a polished piece in a day or two.

13 May 14:48

OtherMuzz

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I think about this shit way too much :D

13 May 14:40

Amit Dutta

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Everyone is on point today

13 May 14:39

John

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@Hermi At the end of the day, we're just guys giving you different routes to the same destination. The right path is always the one you choose for yourself. Good luck!

13 May 14:38

Brian Hermelijn

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Thanks look forward to see what happens really, thanks for the insights fellas. Good riddance its already midnight. Alright have to head off for now, see you all next time. Was a pleasure reading your thoughts on this.

13 May 14:37

OtherMuzz

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Good luck man, i hope to see the results :)!

13 May 14:37

Amit Dutta

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I was just about to parrot off what Muzz said. I think I'll let him just talk, I ain't adding any value :P

13 May 14:37

Brian Hermelijn

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Talking specifically about long hour pose study.

13 May 14:36

Brian Hermelijn

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But your advice is solid though, I just have to try it few times a month (limited time available right now) and see what happens.

13 May 14:36

OtherMuzz

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in the end i'm a random guy on the internet. just take what im saying at face value

13 May 14:36

Brian Hermelijn

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Well currently my goal is to understand his approach (since I really dig his approach) and eventually edit to what fits for me (which is what he also suggest)

13 May 14:36

John

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@Eyli Skip work! I know you want to! ;)

13 May 14:35

Amit Dutta

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Cya Eyliana!

13 May 14:35

Brian Hermelijn

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Haha, yeah.

13 May 14:35

Amit Dutta

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Again this all totally depends on what your goal is. If it is to follow Hampton's way, then of course do it that way!

13 May 14:35

Eyliana

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Damn, I need to get to work. This discussion is far more interesting

13 May 14:33

OtherMuzz

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and scott robertson

13 May 14:33

OtherMuzz

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I haven't actually looked at hampton so i can't really comment tbh. My history is loomis/orielly/bridgman

13 May 14:32

Brian Hermelijn

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Yeah, that's kind of like the cons of teaching yourself in a way.

13 May 14:32

Brian Hermelijn

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Hmm well, currently the process I am using or learning from hampton is, story/compoosition>proportion>weight/balance>anatomy, he mentions to avoid like slow methodical process of measuring the pose since you will eventually stiffen your pose either way due of adding construction later on or so.

13 May 14:32

OtherMuzz

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Ateliers have the benefit of not needing to explain the why as you have a teacher to give you that pressure, but self teaching you need to know how and where to apply that pressure to youself.

13 May 14:32

Amit Dutta

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Oh yeah, nuthing bad about them! Just some perspective and form could be tighter and what Muzz said

13 May 14:31

OtherMuzz

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Yeah this isn't a case of, "everything your doing is bad and you should feel bad" it's more about understanding why you are doing specific things.

13 May 14:30

John

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@Hermi I totally agree with Muzz with his stance. Accuracy. And his point to never lose sight of rhythm and flow. What you have now is the rhythm part. They're pretty lively in my opinion.

13 May 14:29

Amit Dutta

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I believe you can learn more from a single indepth study of one long pose, than a hundred scribbled gestures. Well at least I definitely did. Most ateliers will teach the importance of accuracy and measurement over gesture work. Not to discount gestures, of course. They have their place.