Shout Box archive

09 May 14:48

devinn

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My little 4 month deathline starts tomorrow. Lil nervous...but hyped! This week was basically a preliminary for what's to come...and it's hard as hell, possible, but hard.

09 May 11:45

devinn

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Yeah, good day had by all! Except my sister: she has finals to study for. ha ha ha

09 May 11:40

smrr

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@RP ;) ;) @Jak haha I should've asked how yours was - sounds like a great day, such family discussion <3

09 May 11:31

devinn

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Anybody participating in the crucible?

09 May 11:30

devinn

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Sister kept pulling my hair and laughing at me the entire drive. Mom was jamming to music. Glad you treated momma well smrr

09 May 11:28

devinn

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My momma treated my car when I took her and my sister out for breakfast...Laughing her ass off, she said: "your cars a fucking mess, ugh disgusting lmaoooooo"

09 May 11:23

RottenPocket

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Yeah i bet Smrr haha XD

09 May 11:06

smrr

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09 May 11:05

smrr

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I treated my mama so right, if you know what I'm saying <3 ;)

09 May 11:01

devinn

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How's everyone? Treating your mommas right?

09 May 10:21

RottenPocket

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So i guess different class of treasure and treasure hunter. All comes back to context as you say. Diversity in Art as in Life and all that.

09 May 10:09

Lodratio

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Scavenging is more about mandatory survival skills, while treasure hunting is something you chose to do... almost has a bit of a romantic vibe to it.

09 May 10:05

Lodratio

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yeah, scavenging is a more narrow term. you could still have things like someone scavenging ruins of a long gone modern civilization for technological stuff that's beyond their own ability to create, or just collecting things for the sake of collecting them, so even that is a bit broader than just doing it for the money.

09 May 09:59

RottenPocket

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Scavengers i guess are as you say, not looking for anything specific but salvage and adapt. But a scavenger can still find value in and seek out what can be conceived as Treasure.

09 May 09:54

RottenPocket

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Take Indiana Jones for example. He's an art historian, whose main objective is to save artifacts that rightfuly beling to the people in a museum and as an adventurer he is often forced to play greater roles in a political struggle, predominantly with the Nazis.

09 May 09:53

RottenPocket

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Well many artifacts can be priceless.

09 May 09:17

meat

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I thought treasure hunters tend to look for specific kind of things usually related to their personal passion and may or may not sell what they find to just anyone who will pay, where as scavengers look for anything they can sell for decent cash and that's about all.

09 May 08:54

RottenPocket

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In the meantime, i have work. Horrible, customer-ridden work. The city was covered in fog, all 'silent hill'. Made me want to stay home all '**** today, i seen this movie!'.

09 May 08:53

RottenPocket

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Gotcha

09 May 08:26

Lodratio

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of course that doesn't mean you can ignore your prompt :P

09 May 08:25

Lodratio

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yeah, just do something interesting. if you do a good job, it might end up being a portfolio piece, and portfolio pieces with original ideas will probably attract a different clientel than cookiecutter fantasy stuff. If you want to do original work in the future, you gotta start walking that path now.

09 May 08:24

RottenPocket

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After all, we'll be looking for originality, won't we?

09 May 08:21

RottenPocket

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Yeah, nail on the head Lodratio.

09 May 08:21

RottenPocket

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So i guess what I'm saying is i hope my final is seen as a snapshot of the end goal for the character and not whether or not he/she looks like an adventurer.

09 May 08:21

Lodratio

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i.e. a standard wizard design reads as a wizard design because lots of people have contextualized it as such

09 May 08:20

Lodratio

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if something does seem to function in a vaccum, that's because someone else has already done the job of contextualizing it

09 May 08:19

Lodratio

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Yeah, that's a good point. treasure hunt doesn't have to be about making mad money. There's more interesting reasons why someone might go looking for artifacts. To expand some more on what I thought about character design, what would yoda be without his setup? would anyone think having the greatest jedi alive be a green muppet is memorable, or even a good design, if it hadn't been established the way it was? Designs don't exist in a vaccum.

09 May 08:17

RottenPocket

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I suppose I go a bit far into the realm of narrative when i also say there are those that can be either explicitly treasure hunters by trade or adventurers that simply require to do so as one step towards a greater goal.

09 May 08:14

RottenPocket

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Adventurer seems like a title for a much wider circle. Pretty much anyone set out on a quest. Not defined to material or immaterial without that context. Eg. A treasure hunter is an adventurer that seeks artifacts of significant if not monetary value.

09 May 08:13

Lodratio

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yea, it's stupidly important. Even some really good characterdesigns can't really stand on their own. They rely on being established and contextualized within a story. It's like creating an original visual language, and in a way it allows for more original ideas to become viable.

09 May 08:12

Hobitt

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context is key

09 May 08:09

Lodratio

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anyone going on a treasure hunt would be classifiable as a treasurehunter in a way. I think even if the design was more of an adventurer, or maybe even something completely out there, if you make an illustration with solid storytelling that creates the right context, that character would read as an adventurer.