Shout Box archive

22 Dec 20:38

Hobitt

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it always is

22 Dec 20:38

EduardoGaray

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ah geopolitics, the old trick to get away with whatever you want

22 Dec 20:38

Amit Dutta

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I have stories of my Greek friends' service time, and it's absolutely a hilarious farce!

22 Dec 20:38

Hobitt

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politician have a new angle here "russia is attacking" so they brought back military conscription buying shit tons of military tech for blown out prices meanwhile pensions here are 200 euro lol

22 Dec 20:38

Amit Dutta

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Ah, on the upside that'll probably give you lots of material to work with creatively....

22 Dec 20:38

EduardoGaray

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i see, well good luck with that hope you can keep focusing on art

22 Dec 20:37

Hobitt

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lithuania

22 Dec 20:37

EduardoGaray

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really? which country are you from?

22 Dec 20:36

Hobitt

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probably the worst case scenario for me 2016 that i will get conscripted into the military but ill find it out in january i think

22 Dec 20:35

Amit Dutta

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Yeah the balance is always outgoings vs incoming. Reduce the outgoing to mitigate the shit incoming....that's the basis of the freelancer budget :)

22 Dec 20:34

Hobitt

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some people move to places where rent is dirt cheap

22 Dec 20:34

EduardoGaray

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well, after delving into the world of 3d i realized something, there is a fuck ton of people who want to live off freelance in illustration and concept art fields, a small market that usually pays little

22 Dec 20:34

Amit Dutta

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not to say some haven't just done freelance, but I bet they all lived with / borrowed money from their parents at some point haha!

22 Dec 20:33

Amit Dutta

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Seriously though, I think the only sure way to freelance, is through a studio gig....

22 Dec 20:33

Hobitt

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still doing mine altough i really need to get good enough to quit it since im starting to get back pains now

22 Dec 20:32

Amit Dutta

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thanks Eduardo! I'm looking into part time work....maybe cleaning toilets :P

22 Dec 20:32

Amit Dutta

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really great, and really shit....probably leaning towards really shit :)

22 Dec 20:32

EduardoGaray

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sorry to hear that Amit, but the stuff you make is really good, im sure you can make it, just maybe freelancing isnt what you need right now

22 Dec 20:31

Hobitt

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also hows 2015 been for you people

22 Dec 20:31

Hobitt

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some battles are lost but the war aint over!

22 Dec 20:30

Amit Dutta

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On paper, shit I've done looks good, but I can't afford to eat, and I am losing my house and all sorts of other stuff...not saying it can't be done or others' won't make it, but just, hoping to show some reality checks I guess....Yeah need to keep going whatever the shit

22 Dec 20:29

Hobitt

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just need to keep pushing

22 Dec 20:28

Amit Dutta

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We all take that first step here.....I've just been having a really tough time of late, and realising how hard it is to freelance consistently no matter what seems to be going well.

22 Dec 20:28

Hobitt

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yeah i guess you could say succesful people are more delusional lol

22 Dec 20:27

Olooriel

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you can't eat it, but it'll empower you to keep walking towards a goal, even if the way to there means having to wade through lots of shit

22 Dec 20:27

EduardoGaray

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you mean that successful people go beyond common sense in the pursuit of whatever they want, while unsuccessful ones are tu worried about failing so they never try or try hard enough

22 Dec 20:26

Olooriel

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I'm probably too realistic to make it, lol

22 Dec 20:26

Amit Dutta

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Try eating motivation.... :P

22 Dec 20:26

Olooriel

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dreams are a good motivator...

22 Dec 20:25

Hobitt

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i did hear there was a study that most succesful people lie to themselves more than less succesful

22 Dec 20:25

EduardoGaray

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i think it boils to start with a dream, then waking up and realizing if what you wanted from the start is still worth or not

22 Dec 20:25

Hobitt

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i guess its better to pursue dreams than be 90 years old and sit there and wonder "what if i did that instead"