14 Sep 07:45
--Please tell me the variables and the depends - I'm all ears.
Shout Box archive
14 Sep 07:44
--How much can a person make from concept art/illustration? This is never readily addressed.
14 Sep 07:44
--I know about those books Jan, but not every books suits a persons learning needs.
14 Sep 07:43
--they are literally the best thing that has ever happened to art education in the history of everything. i am not exaggerating. everything you need to know of how to draw and paint convincing forms is in there
14 Sep 07:43
--I tried to read the scott robinson book how to draw, and discovered I didn't know enough about perspective to understand it..so..
14 Sep 07:41
--I do know of his books, but not too sure if I will get them yet, gonna wait and see.
14 Sep 07:40
--Although in regards to construction, do check the Hampton posts about constructions, he speaks about why you should do construction, and speaks also about some of the old masters work.
14 Sep 07:40
--i think ever single person on this forum, including myself, cannot go wrong by studying How to Draw and How to Render byScott Robertson. this is an advertisement :D seriously, if everyone here knew everything thats in those 2 books, we'd look like Art Center students. there is a lot more to learn but those to are about the core of everything that everyone here struggles with
14 Sep 07:39
--Well actually there is more to the blog, since he's more of a person that draws for the meditative state of it, than creating art works for peoples, from what I know thus far.
14 Sep 07:39
--Indeed. But yeah, that blog is more about accuracy drawing, there is no discussion in regards to construction per say;
14 Sep 07:38
--I do think you can spend too long looking for the perfect method, it doesn't exist, you gotta just muddle through taking the useful bits from where you find them
14 Sep 07:37
--Its an opportunity for learning when you have a discussion, about the methods, knowledge, techniques. No need to dispute such activity, you know :)
14 Sep 07:36
--Jeso, is it wrong to have a discussion? Don't see why we can't have a healthy discussion going :)
14 Sep 07:36
--In fact! why dont you join us at the Velvet Revolvers, draw together, get better together! ;)
14 Sep 07:36
--Hey discussions/arguments can be beneficial and help us to learn ;) As long as we don't take it personally, of course.
14 Sep 07:36
--Yep Jan, ... but I think that's why that website bugged me, because he was all about representation, no nod to construction
14 Sep 07:35
--But then again, I'm still in the learning phase, learning more about what other artists exist out there, and so on.
14 Sep 07:34
--mhm, you need to train the connect between the hand and the eye too, or no matter how well you can see it, you won't be able to get the line right
14 Sep 07:34
--its like comparing mathematics or physics with psychology. there is a physical part to it. there are laws that decide why things look a certain way. and then there is what happens in your brain when all of that affects you. if you limit yourself to the first your work will look cold and boring and if you only do the latter its gonna be hard to communicate what you are trying to bring across. so you want both
14 Sep 07:33
--That's essentially what academic drawing is teaching you, the ability to judge things accurately, drawing the basic forms etc. or am I wrong?