07 Sep 07:30
--need to get a couple of mirrors for drawing myself at different angles http://i.imgur.com/7tsME.jpg
Shout Box archive
07 Sep 07:20
--Hopefully next year I will be able to delve into their online program;
07 Sep 07:14
--In case if anyone is interested; http://www.erikgist.com/family%20tree2.pdf
07 Sep 06:52
--I've been enjoying watching your guys' threads!! Not sure I could join at this time since bouncing between lots of projects but I might drop in to crit/help if you don't mind :D
07 Sep 06:45
--By the way, if you guys dont already know, There is a new study group called The Velvet Revolvers, over at the groups section. Come join us if you want to work like mofos, improve fast, and enjoy the camaraderie ! :)
07 Sep 06:41
--And don't think about it as scaring people with numbers -- think about it as gently educating clients, I have had clients refuse my rates only to come back one or two months later, with even bigger jobs :)
07 Sep 06:38
--Yeah, and it gives you an idea of how seriously they want your art ;) Don't underprice yourself!
07 Sep 06:36
--Jessica Hische has a great article here: http://www.jessicahische.is/thinkingthou...outpricing
07 Sep 06:36
--Yeah, you need to establish a baseline to haggle from -- and clients that commission art with some regularity (also publishers, etc) will give you their budget first.
07 Sep 06:35
--Ahh, yeah that's good advise. I'd rather see the number they have in their mind first.
07 Sep 06:34
--Personal commissions can pay very well and it's easier to go from that point into --> "well I can offer you the following standard rates for B&W/sketch/full painting". If they don't tell you their budget, or say they have no clue how to price art, don't be afraid of quoting industry rates. ArtPact is a good source for these.
07 Sep 06:31
--Always always always ask the client for a quote first! A good way to phrase it "what is your budget for this project?" or "let me know what budget you have in mind for this commission, and I will be able to give you a quote within a day"
07 Sep 06:14
--but especially if you weren't looking for the job/don't desperately need the money, better ask for a little more than you'd be comfortable working for, it's likely he'll try to beat down the price anyway
07 Sep 06:12
--still, him not being able to offer a decent amount is the worst case scenario (of course, that doesn't mean you should _accept_ less than a decent amount)