02 Sep 15:25
--LOL yeah, I know.
Shout Box archive
02 Sep 15:25
--It doesn't have to be a serious project, comics are a lot easier than you think. Just start writing something and scribble out some thumbnails. You're not obligated to take it beyond the writing or thumbnail stage unless you think it's worth drawing.
02 Sep 15:23
--Yeah UoU I need to figure out how to do it in a fun way, though. I'm too inexperienced/get too antsy while taking on a serious project unless it's something in a group, so a lot of the ideas I have right now would be too much of a burden.
02 Sep 15:23
--You should totally jump in and make a comic! It's pretty important that you're not just studying, that you're actually apply what you learn to the things you want to do.
02 Sep 15:20
--I need to start making comics or games, any project. I need to make something :u
02 Sep 15:19
--I kinda just. Love doodling, and also when people tell me they like my work. Feeds my disgusting ego HAHA. At it's core it's really fun, I'm grinding to try and use it to say something important instead of just making lines
02 Sep 15:18
--So I focus on learning how to draw, that's my grind, and painting is my reward
02 Sep 15:17
--Yeah, I tend to throw the words love and hate around too much without any actual emotion attached to them, I don't hate drawing, I just really enjoy the process of painting, and all else is sort of fundamental to get to the point I can paint
02 Sep 15:17
--You guys get so deep in these convos... all I have to add is, "heck yea, draftsmanship! *v*"
02 Sep 15:11
--And on that note I should probably get back to working on my drawing skills. Want to give Proko's anatomy tracing a go...
02 Sep 15:08
--Painting is just a layer of effects over that structure: values, colour and texture. It makes a big difference to the final impression that people have of your work, but it's not where most of the mistakes are made.
02 Sep 15:02
--Think of the fundamentals, perspective, gesture, construction, anatomy etc. all of those are things you deal with when drawing. Of course it's going to be difficult but it's those things that also determine the quality of the final work... Even if you're speed painting, your ability to deal with those fundamentals determine your success since it's still drawing with a brush.
02 Sep 15:01
--I think keeping an open mind is a much better way to develop as an artist, than to shut things down. The frustration will get less as you improve.
02 Sep 14:58
--Punk, maybe you shouldn't label things so much with this love/hate terminology. All you are doing is amping up both your weaknesses as well as your strengths. If you know you need to draw, (Drawing is pretty much the base mandatory skill to have if you want to do representational work) you should be finding a way to seek enjoyment out of it rather than label it a hatred. I mean I can't see how an artist could hate drawing if anxiety over results are taken out of the game!
02 Sep 14:58
--Drawing is a lot harder than painting, since it deals mostly with structure. Any skills you build there will make your paintings a lot stronger.
02 Sep 14:54
--That's a good way to be, I think I'm happy with the process when I'm painting, but drawing is just immeasurably frustrating, and if I try and paint without drawing first it's terrible.. so I have to suffer the drawing bit
02 Sep 14:52
--When I just started out it was more about the aesthetics since I just wanted to make cool shit, but once I reached the point where I was better than the heroes I started with, I realized that it was a shallow victory and that the joy of the craft is more important than the results.
02 Sep 14:52
--The frustration is the bit that I'm banging my head against, like the texture studies I'm doing, I can see exactly what I need to do, what the values are etc, then I try and express it on paper.. ahahaha.. TRY.. yep nope..
02 Sep 14:49
--Currently the creative freedom is the thing that drives me the most, I have so many things I want to do but can't pull off and that frustrates me immensely.
02 Sep 14:48
--I have a few reasons why I like the craft, first that I have aesthetic qualities I love and want to see, second that with skill comes the creative freedom to make everything I want, third that I just adore learning and how academic it can be.
02 Sep 14:44
--I honestly don't know what exactly it is about art that I love so much.. the flow of paint from a brush I think.. I'd happily be someones lacky and paint their images as long as I could do it traditionally, digital colouring has no intrinsic reward
02 Sep 14:43
--oh, yeah, I just wrote a journal entry on the whole fear thing, it's been doing my head in so much recently
02 Sep 14:42
--A love for problem solving is also at the root of why I like art, at the same time it's this love and hate thing where I'm simultaneously enamored with it, and also aprehensive
02 Sep 14:20
--I have an aversion to anything that smacks of math, but I was observing the road and buildings walking to the supermarket today, and a bunch of stuff I'd been learning about perspective clicked into place, now I need to try and recreate the images and see if I can do what I understand now
02 Sep 14:01
--You can't just think, I know this perspective is off, and then struggle on vaguely hoping that knowledge will come back. You have to identify and understand exactly WHY it is off, and then go back and figure out how to fix it. Art really is about problem solving more than anything!
02 Sep 14:00
--Application is simply, really using the things you have learned to specifically solve problems.
02 Sep 13:45
--Application is the hardest part.. I /know/ lots and lots of art theory.. but I can't apply it to save myself :D
02 Sep 13:43
--You could always try the hangouts Vic? I'm being boring right now, and trying to draw a mentally rotated in space cube one small rotation at a time.. my brain hurts o.0
02 Sep 13:41
--Yeah punk totally. That's what shape language and design principles are all about! I am recording some stuff about it, though very lightly. I want people to get stuck into application as much as possible :)