29 Aug 06:37
--Bridgman takes some time to get it, that's for sure.
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29 Aug 06:36
--But it seems that its generally agreed on that Loomis is a good starting point huh?
29 Aug 06:35
--I didn't buy a Hogarth book on anatomy when I had the chance and always kinda regretted that I didn't got around to it since. And Bridgman somehow never really got to me. It just seemed I was missing something.
29 Aug 06:29
--I haven't gone into Hogarth yet. I was always kind of turned away because it was really bubbly-- But when I tried him at one time, I found it actually -did- help me to look more at the forms in the back, for example. Exaggerating form can actually give you a better idea of how things are moving underneath.. But it's a balance, I think
29 Aug 06:28
--I found that it helped me far better to study from Loomis before going into Hogarth. I think it's about technical vs. gesture, in a way.
29 Aug 06:27
--Heard a lot of bad stuff about Hogarth, lots of discussion going on about his book, especially for beginners. Like if you do not know a lot about anatomy, it can kind of cringe your skills same with Hampton. Since they both are kind of stylized.
29 Aug 06:26
--I've been looking at Michael Hampton, Bridgman, and Loomis at the moment-- After I've got the anatomy in a fairly -general- way, I'm going to try Hogarth. Wish me luck, haha, he's kind of insane.
29 Aug 06:26
--But you could try imaginative piece and see if it works for you. At my current stage, I don't think it's working-- But I still doodle things out, just to see how I'm progressing.
29 Aug 06:25
--Well one thing that helped me for sure is to keep the books to a minimum, as in, the books you follow to like 1 or 2.
29 Aug 06:25
--I meant the memory really, because that's what I'm finding is really helping for me.
29 Aug 06:24
--Bookend, interesting that you just told me to "not be afraid to apply it", did you mean in a full imaginative piece or just drawing from memory? I certainly do the latter way more than the former, but I'm never sure which people mean when they tell me to "train my imagination muscles"...
29 Aug 06:24
--Cool, thanks. I'll check them out too. Even when I've got all these books, it's so great to be able to take something from a lot of different sources.
29 Aug 06:24
--practicing is what's gonna take some time to do, can be a year or even 2 or even 4 hehe.
29 Aug 06:24
--2 Books I'm currently learning from, Harold Science of Drawing, and Keys to Drawing Bert Dudson.
29 Aug 06:23
--It almost seems like cheating to be able to just look at an outline of a curriculum and apply it in your own way. And you can pretty much intuitively figure it out if you've ever gone to school before.
29 Aug 06:22
--Even though I've done a lot of studies on my challenge, I still feel like I've only scratched the surface. But at least I SCRATCHED it. Before I was kind of flailing at it, ahha XD
29 Aug 06:22
--Still, it's great to have that observation ability now, because it means applying it will come faster.. In theory. XD
29 Aug 06:22
--That's one of the reason why I want to try out the academic kind of learning, seeing what's on their curriculum, finding someone that's teaching that kind of system (which I did)
29 Aug 06:21
--Yeah, that's the kind of intuitive feeling I've got from what I'm doing. Sure, I've been drawing on and off for years, but I still feel like I'm at beginner level because I wasn't applying it properly. I can copy shite like a pro though, haha. It's kind of painful. I can look at my 'copies', and then my actual stuff is just shite. XD
29 Aug 06:20
--But take my word for what it's, since I'm nowhere near any level to be given any kind of advice, aside from my own thoughts on the matter.
29 Aug 06:19
--And after few years, they start altering the process, since you already have the ability to do something better, for example, drawing forms due of drawing it a whole lot of time.
29 Aug 06:19
--there is nothing in regards to imagination work, because the first few years its more of ingraining the fundamentals, learning the principles etc.