Shout Box archive

29 Aug 01:57

Jan Kloidt

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the only ones I see that are not bragging about how many one-nighters they are pulling and how little time they spend outside of photoshop are carefully planning their own lives instead of selling all your time to this job

29 Aug 01:55

Jan Kloidt

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because the entire industry turned that way

29 Aug 01:55

Jan Kloidt

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the reason i posted the article is because the lifestyles of so many concept artists are exactly what this guy went through

29 Aug 01:55

Bookend

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But I guess I'm kind of optimistic/idealistic about the art side of it. Hope for the best, expect the worst kinda thing.

29 Aug 01:54

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And there's no way of knowing what kind of environment you're going to be working with when you're on a team

29 Aug 01:54

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To answer your question Hermi-- I meant that I'd avoid advertisement if I could. The article was based around advertisement ideas in particular. I know that the art world contains advertisement -anyway-, of course, and that it's inherent in it-- You're selling your ideas.

29 Aug 01:48

Brian Hermelijn

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probably war of art, that one I know is going around the internet, not art spirit though

29 Aug 01:47

Jan Kloidt

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works too

29 Aug 01:47

Jan Kloidt

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ok then i downloaded one of them illegally :D

29 Aug 01:46

Brian Hermelijn

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Art & Fear is 2001.

29 Aug 01:46

Jan Kloidt

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its funny, Hitlers book will soon be free too, so they will have problems banning it here in germany

29 Aug 01:45

Brian Hermelijn

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Nevermind I was wrong, art spirit was published in 1923.

29 Aug 01:45

Jan Kloidt

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hm maybe i got another book in mind^^

29 Aug 01:45

Brian Hermelijn

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I thought its free after 60 years when the original author died?

29 Aug 01:45

Brian Hermelijn

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Ah, art spirit isn't old though from what I Know.

29 Aug 01:44

Jan Kloidt

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it just becomes open source after enough years

29 Aug 01:44

Brian Hermelijn

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Shirk from advertisement what do you mean, bookend?

29 Aug 01:44

Jan Kloidt

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no they are so old, they are literally free of copyright now

29 Aug 01:44

Brian Hermelijn

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Will Terrel?

29 Aug 01:44

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(Just finished article)

29 Aug 01:44

Brian Hermelijn

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Copyright as in the discussion that was going on ytube in regards to art copyrights?

29 Aug 01:43

Brian Hermelijn

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For sure, wait,

29 Aug 01:43

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While I know that the art world in general isn't that much different, I would shirk from advertisement in general.

29 Aug 01:43

Jan Kloidt

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you can download both for free, copyright is gone

29 Aug 01:42

Brian Hermelijn

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War of art is also another one I will be getting soon, although haven't finished both of those 2, but I think I will be re-reading them over and over again.

29 Aug 01:42

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One of the top recommended artist's books

29 Aug 01:41

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ve heard of it.

29 Aug 01:41

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I'

29 Aug 01:41

Richie

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or the war of art

29 Aug 01:40

Brian Hermelijn

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or Art & Fear

29 Aug 01:40

Brian Hermelijn

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Do you by any chance have this book called The Art Spirit

29 Aug 01:39

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Gist XD