04-21-2017, 02:44 PM
"And I'm not quite sure what you're getting out of those cylinders. It seems it's 'cylinders with random ellipse as base' exercise? Check this one out just in case you haven't (http://drawabox.com/lesson/250cylinders)"
Thanks, I can see it now, I think I had done that direction for some of the cylinders, but yea it was kind of confusing but I wished I would have reread it. And yea I can also see how those circles are not really circles, some of em at least lol.
"I can't change it alone, or even with an organized group; it's just human nature. And that pisses me off, the fact that I cannot change it despite any amount of effort. I'm angry that I cannot achieve the impossible.
Why is it important for you to change it? "
It isn't. The romantic idea of changing it is important, but not the actual action.
"A man emerging from a boy.. or a person realizing he has the tendency to be a paranoid schizophrenic :) It's like a person shooting an average of 33% free throws claiming himself to be the most accurate free throw shooter of all time!"
Yep, that's me! Jason Genova comes to mind, but he doesn't play Basketball...
"People are drawn to it, only if he/she can back it up. That's the only strategy you can bank on. 'Somewhat honest' is basically lying to yourself. If you can't be honest with yourself first, how can you expect people to trust that you're this person who put forth that kind of integrity?"
They don't have to, some people will, it's the nature of politics; You'll never impress 100% everyone, it's impossible. Frustrating innit? I don't have to be honest with myself, you have to be delusional to think you'll change anything (besides your underwear.) Herp derp fallacy. The people you never hear from because you aren't delusional or honest or whatever, are the people you're potentially missing out on and vice versa.
There's two sides of things in life John, there's persuasion and the logical side. It's like, why you can go up to some ladies, say something sexual and they could have mixed reactions depending on how its said. It doesn't make logical sense if you just look at what was said in the form of text, but if you "were there" you'd understand it in ways of persuasion.
You're looking at all this stuff I'm saying like it's a formal debate, like you gotta win you know? But you're not because I can just double down on everything because I am indifferent to negative perceptions, because I am happy with myself, because as I said, I am the shit. Now, logically, that doesn't make any sense, I agree with you, but it makes sense in terms of persuasion, in subtle and complex ways. That's the positive power of persuasion, things get done worldwide with that power.
Donald Trump is a perfect example of it. He says many crazy things that don't make logical sense but it's how he says it, and the meaning of words can sometimes completely go against what he might have said earlier, but it's like water a ducks back. Hence a master of persuasion, he's immune to criticism, and highly successful, and they criticize/parody him to no end, but it only makes him more famous, and more successful. But as you said, you need something to back it up, and Trump has the success to back up the big talk.
I don't have that success yet but when I do, I will put a lot of people off and turn a lot of people on by being the haughty loud mouth big shot (that I always wanted to be.) Always a mixed bag, never 100%. Plus I think it'll be refreshing to have at least one person with some charisma and testosterone in the illusrtation world. The closest I ever came to one was Shaddy Safadi and he's still pretty tame and low key.
So spare me (and yourself) the logical debate John about my personality, it can't be won, and I don't need any help. I need help on like drawing boxes and spheres and stuff, I don't need therapy lol. My sketchbook shows that journey of leaving behind the insecurities, and just taking responsibility for things.
(If it still doesn't make sense go watch Fight Club a few times, it might sink in)
Voodoo: Hey man, now you know what mistakes not to make right? Lol I'm not sad, I don't have time for that shit. And it's not like I didn't learn anything, I mean lighting, color, values, shape language, gesture, are fundamentals or part of it, so it's just the big chunky things I wasn't giving the time of day. So I'll probably make some killer stuff in a small matter of time.
And I don't really have a "dream job" the dream is just to impress people enough, be they art directors or people who want commissions to email me for work. Eventually I want to work on a web graphic novel I've been writing behind the scenes for years, and maybe have people donate if they enjoy reading it. That's it lol. The standard for getting freelance work consistently and working at a company are similar though, I've noticed.
This is far from boring for me because I feel as if I've discovered the Indiana Jones Magic Island Secret to improving my work. So, it may be hard to believe but I feel like this stuff is quite fascinating, as if it's some hidden world. Like Tom hanks seeing a boat in the Film Castaway.
Ooookay!
So, did a whole bunch of these sphere exercises, and now I am COMPLETELY aware of where they're uneven. A good trick that I discovered doing my last few is turning the paper sideways before drawing the arcing lines. Most of these are not a textbook spheres, but more like Ovals. However, I tried to match the lengthwise sides, but I'm still figuring a lot of this out. umm, Also, you really can see how off a shape is like a circle when you wrap tiny lines to show the form. Or drawing it inside a well drawn box for that matter...
They look kinda cool however, like the ATNT logo haha. Drawing a diamond shape in the thing can show the similarities two, more like two exactly a like triangles though. Maybe that's wrong, who knows... I also thought, man I should draw these from different angles. Then I thought... what different angles? Lol it's going to be the same at every angle since it should be equal on all sides and is the same shape anywhere except a funny mirror!
Wheew.. nothin like gettin up and typin a novel in the mornin...
Current state for today:
http://colorquiz.com/results.php?code=m,...5,1&p=full
Thanks, I can see it now, I think I had done that direction for some of the cylinders, but yea it was kind of confusing but I wished I would have reread it. And yea I can also see how those circles are not really circles, some of em at least lol.
"I can't change it alone, or even with an organized group; it's just human nature. And that pisses me off, the fact that I cannot change it despite any amount of effort. I'm angry that I cannot achieve the impossible.
Why is it important for you to change it? "
It isn't. The romantic idea of changing it is important, but not the actual action.
"A man emerging from a boy.. or a person realizing he has the tendency to be a paranoid schizophrenic :) It's like a person shooting an average of 33% free throws claiming himself to be the most accurate free throw shooter of all time!"
Yep, that's me! Jason Genova comes to mind, but he doesn't play Basketball...
"People are drawn to it, only if he/she can back it up. That's the only strategy you can bank on. 'Somewhat honest' is basically lying to yourself. If you can't be honest with yourself first, how can you expect people to trust that you're this person who put forth that kind of integrity?"
They don't have to, some people will, it's the nature of politics; You'll never impress 100% everyone, it's impossible. Frustrating innit? I don't have to be honest with myself, you have to be delusional to think you'll change anything (besides your underwear.) Herp derp fallacy. The people you never hear from because you aren't delusional or honest or whatever, are the people you're potentially missing out on and vice versa.
There's two sides of things in life John, there's persuasion and the logical side. It's like, why you can go up to some ladies, say something sexual and they could have mixed reactions depending on how its said. It doesn't make logical sense if you just look at what was said in the form of text, but if you "were there" you'd understand it in ways of persuasion.
You're looking at all this stuff I'm saying like it's a formal debate, like you gotta win you know? But you're not because I can just double down on everything because I am indifferent to negative perceptions, because I am happy with myself, because as I said, I am the shit. Now, logically, that doesn't make any sense, I agree with you, but it makes sense in terms of persuasion, in subtle and complex ways. That's the positive power of persuasion, things get done worldwide with that power.
Donald Trump is a perfect example of it. He says many crazy things that don't make logical sense but it's how he says it, and the meaning of words can sometimes completely go against what he might have said earlier, but it's like water a ducks back. Hence a master of persuasion, he's immune to criticism, and highly successful, and they criticize/parody him to no end, but it only makes him more famous, and more successful. But as you said, you need something to back it up, and Trump has the success to back up the big talk.
I don't have that success yet but when I do, I will put a lot of people off and turn a lot of people on by being the haughty loud mouth big shot (that I always wanted to be.) Always a mixed bag, never 100%. Plus I think it'll be refreshing to have at least one person with some charisma and testosterone in the illusrtation world. The closest I ever came to one was Shaddy Safadi and he's still pretty tame and low key.
So spare me (and yourself) the logical debate John about my personality, it can't be won, and I don't need any help. I need help on like drawing boxes and spheres and stuff, I don't need therapy lol. My sketchbook shows that journey of leaving behind the insecurities, and just taking responsibility for things.
(If it still doesn't make sense go watch Fight Club a few times, it might sink in)
Voodoo: Hey man, now you know what mistakes not to make right? Lol I'm not sad, I don't have time for that shit. And it's not like I didn't learn anything, I mean lighting, color, values, shape language, gesture, are fundamentals or part of it, so it's just the big chunky things I wasn't giving the time of day. So I'll probably make some killer stuff in a small matter of time.
And I don't really have a "dream job" the dream is just to impress people enough, be they art directors or people who want commissions to email me for work. Eventually I want to work on a web graphic novel I've been writing behind the scenes for years, and maybe have people donate if they enjoy reading it. That's it lol. The standard for getting freelance work consistently and working at a company are similar though, I've noticed.
This is far from boring for me because I feel as if I've discovered the Indiana Jones Magic Island Secret to improving my work. So, it may be hard to believe but I feel like this stuff is quite fascinating, as if it's some hidden world. Like Tom hanks seeing a boat in the Film Castaway.
Ooookay!
So, did a whole bunch of these sphere exercises, and now I am COMPLETELY aware of where they're uneven. A good trick that I discovered doing my last few is turning the paper sideways before drawing the arcing lines. Most of these are not a textbook spheres, but more like Ovals. However, I tried to match the lengthwise sides, but I'm still figuring a lot of this out. umm, Also, you really can see how off a shape is like a circle when you wrap tiny lines to show the form. Or drawing it inside a well drawn box for that matter...
They look kinda cool however, like the ATNT logo haha. Drawing a diamond shape in the thing can show the similarities two, more like two exactly a like triangles though. Maybe that's wrong, who knows... I also thought, man I should draw these from different angles. Then I thought... what different angles? Lol it's going to be the same at every angle since it should be equal on all sides and is the same shape anywhere except a funny mirror!
Wheew.. nothin like gettin up and typin a novel in the mornin...
Current state for today:
http://colorquiz.com/results.php?code=m,...5,1&p=full
70+Page Koala Sketchbook: http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3465.html SB
Paintover thread, submit for crits! http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7879.html
[color=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.882)]e owl sat on an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke.[/color]
Paintover thread, submit for crits! http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7879.html
[color=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.882)]e owl sat on an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke.[/color]