04-21-2017, 11:36 PM
Quote:The romantic idea of changing it is important, but not the actual action.
Why is it important? I must be missing out on something important about art..
Quote:You'll never impress 100% everyone, it's impossible. Frustrating innit?
Nope. I don't see the reason to be frustrated about 100% of the population not being impressed of what I do. I'd be frustrated about not having running water!
Quote:I don't have to be honest with myself, you have to be delusional to think you'll change anything (besides your underwear.) Herp derp fallacy.
Too much of a blanket statement if you think you can't change anything. At the very least, you can change the way you view things. Or how you react to it.
Quote:The people you never hear from because you aren't delusional or honest or whatever, are the people you're potentially missing out on and vice versa.
I dunno! I find myself pretty deluded at times! There was one time my friend, who I think is pretty honest, caught me listening to house music. After a few derogatory remarks, and him laughing at my uncharacteristic attraction to that genre, I come to realize that I was riding on the fact that house was a popular movement at the time. And that was me being a trend whore :)
Then again, you might be on to something. Maybe we're both delusional idiots cut from the same cloth!
Quote:There's two sides of things in life John, there's persuasion and the logical side. It's like, why you can go up to some ladies, say something sexual and they could have mixed reactions depending on how its said. It doesn't make logical sense if you just look at what was said in the form of text, but if you "were there" you'd understand it in ways of persuasion.
I dunno about that. Try saying 'I bet your cooter smells like roadkill' to random women. And try on different facial gestures and tonal inflections. I'd wager the reaction won't be as mixed as you think it would be :)
Quote:You're looking at all this stuff I'm saying like it's a formal debate, like you gotta win you know?
I am? Do I get a set of steak knives if I win? :)
Quote: But you're not because I can just double down on everything because I am indifferent to negative perceptions,
So much for the steak knives...
Quote:because I am happy with myself, because as I said, I am the shit. Now, logically, that doesn't make any sense, I agree with you, but it makes sense in terms of persuasion, in subtle and complex ways. That's the positive power of persuasion, things get done worldwide with that power.
Well, seeing you're practicing it for quite some time, what are the things you got done with that kind of thinking?
Quote:Donald Trump is a perfect example of it.
I would argue but I choose not to because things might get political, which I think nobody likes to hear anyway. But I do see your point. Charles Manson did convince people to drink the koolaid of death... :)
Quote:So spare me (and yourself) the logical debate John about my personality, it can't be won, and I don't need any help.
I'd like to think of this more of a casual conversation than a debate. Why on earth would I claim to think I'd be better debater when I clearly know so little, or even none, about the subject, which is you?
Quote:I need help on like drawing boxes and spheres and stuff,
Yeah.. but every time people call you out, you seem to not have an earnest attempt to fix things. Sure, you do acknowledge the fact your work isn't quite up to par. Sure you do put out a ridiculous amount of effort. But the quality of work doesn't seem to reflect those sentiments. If you don't believe me, check this thread's history and try to point out the recurring things people call you out on.
I could point you to Scott Robertson's How to Draw. Or drawabox.com. But I think I'll just end up insulting ourselves. Because I'm pretty sure you're familiar with both. That said, I'd insult myself for being a nag..
Quote:I don't need therapy lol. My sketchbook shows that journey of leaving behind the insecurities, and just taking responsibility for things.
(So much for this prescription slip for prozac I was just about to give you! Straight to the bin I say!)
I do realize that this may come off as me running my mouth with the tendency to be self-righteous.. I just hope that you'd see past that and this is me trying to reach out to you. I realize it's appealing to visualize yourself as this 'me against the whole world' romantic, but that path can be isolating and could only harbor resentment.
I hope you do acknowledge that we're both not far off from what we want out of art. Or at the very least, we both share the same sentiment that hopefully we can get our skills to a level where we can try to make a decent living out of it.
I don't think you're stupid. I don't think you're too far gone. Anyone who can point out that they are most of the time aren't. Sure you may come off as contradicting, but that goes the same for the rest of the world. It's just us figuring things out. You don't have to be insecure about anything. Or at least not to me. We all have our shitty shapes in our sketchbooks. Even if they don't, that doesn't validate him or her to be more of an artist than you.
Quote:(If it still doesn't make sense go watch Fight Club a few times, it might sink in)
Don't worry. I still don't think you're too blonde :)
If you are reading this, I most likely just gave you a crappy crit! What I'm basically trying to say is, don't give up!
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