04-26-2017, 01:27 PM
I 110% understand this now Amit, and I apologize i I lumped you in with some people, I wasn't really considering all the things you'd told me. It wasn't really a concious decision to describe that as what you might advocate.
I used to think quite the opposite of how you described learning. My perception was "study and draw a lot." which will lead to improvement. So, I did that, to a quite ridiculous amount (hence my 100 lb crates of sketch paper and 90+ digital pieces a month.) Problem was it was just like spinning a wheel for the sake of it and not really learning anything.
So I completely understand what you're saying, despite some of the vocabulary which admittedly is beyond me. You must understand the visual and functional elements something before you can draw it properly. You draw it, find what is missing or what can be done better in reference, add that on or start again and add it. That's it.
Fundamentals help you understand in a realistic context how to mathematically express that thing. That's where the shapes come in, studies etc. I get it, it's very logical, and the opposite of how I percieved art initially, as being very expressive and emotional. (Which explains my frustration and my desire to be rebellious, as I had imagined that's how art was, but not this particular industry.) Fortunately, I've had that rebellious beaten out of me over the years, and I appreciate the mature and practical application of drawing in painting in the real world as products and novelties.
Now with these boxes and shapes, I just want to get them right, and I'm getting close to it, it might take a few more days for them to not bother me, but I just gotta grind em out. But I did do some caricatures today and the shapes translated over quite well, things are still slightly wonky but a hell of a lot more manageable. Even rendered one and somehow knew a lot more of how pencil lead weights and sharpness would affect the shading.
My boxes are still skewed, but the lines are getting better and better, I can see it in action. A lot of bad things to beat. I'm very optimistic at this point, the logic has clicked, just gonna take some more damn boxes and stuff to prove it! I'll need a foundation for these anyways, and it's so underdeveloped it will need some extra time.
Haha everytime I get a comment I think, okay let's give him a sentence and move on... Never works out like that lol.
Mood dude
http://colorquiz.com/results.php?code=m,...3,2&p=full
I used to think quite the opposite of how you described learning. My perception was "study and draw a lot." which will lead to improvement. So, I did that, to a quite ridiculous amount (hence my 100 lb crates of sketch paper and 90+ digital pieces a month.) Problem was it was just like spinning a wheel for the sake of it and not really learning anything.
So I completely understand what you're saying, despite some of the vocabulary which admittedly is beyond me. You must understand the visual and functional elements something before you can draw it properly. You draw it, find what is missing or what can be done better in reference, add that on or start again and add it. That's it.
Fundamentals help you understand in a realistic context how to mathematically express that thing. That's where the shapes come in, studies etc. I get it, it's very logical, and the opposite of how I percieved art initially, as being very expressive and emotional. (Which explains my frustration and my desire to be rebellious, as I had imagined that's how art was, but not this particular industry.) Fortunately, I've had that rebellious beaten out of me over the years, and I appreciate the mature and practical application of drawing in painting in the real world as products and novelties.
Now with these boxes and shapes, I just want to get them right, and I'm getting close to it, it might take a few more days for them to not bother me, but I just gotta grind em out. But I did do some caricatures today and the shapes translated over quite well, things are still slightly wonky but a hell of a lot more manageable. Even rendered one and somehow knew a lot more of how pencil lead weights and sharpness would affect the shading.
My boxes are still skewed, but the lines are getting better and better, I can see it in action. A lot of bad things to beat. I'm very optimistic at this point, the logic has clicked, just gonna take some more damn boxes and stuff to prove it! I'll need a foundation for these anyways, and it's so underdeveloped it will need some extra time.
Haha everytime I get a comment I think, okay let's give him a sentence and move on... Never works out like that lol.
Mood dude
http://colorquiz.com/results.php?code=m,...3,2&p=full
70+Page Koala Sketchbook: http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3465.html SB
Paintover thread, submit for crits! http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7879.html
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Paintover thread, submit for crits! http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7879.html
[color=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.882)]e owl sat on an oak. The more he saw, the less he spoke.[/color]