09-20-2018, 07:07 PM
(08-19-2018, 09:48 PM)Amit Dutta Wrote: The studies are getting better. I'm still unsure why the first versions are quite that much less accurate than the finals. You should try and get the accuracy down in one drawing as you go. If a line or angle or proportion looks off immediately correct the drawing as you go rather than practice all these sloppy attempts.I'm having a hard time with the draw a box lessons. I found them to be extremely difficult and confusing. I don't recall learning much from them at all.
The issues with the imagination heads are many most of all perspective and proportions.
You need to be able to visualise and draw a basic box rotating in order to draw angled/rotated heads (or anything) well. This is what the drawabox basic exercises were to help for really. The next step might be to draw simplified heads as if oriented inside the box. You can combine the exercise such as drawing these asaro heads (all angles)within the correctly oriented box..but you must slow down and try and go for general overall accuracy and start just with line drawings and getting them correct before you even think about value
The point of accuracy studies is not simply to copy 1:1 but to really actively analyse and learn from what you are observing be it proportion or perspective or shapes. Check your work against the originals carefully. Make notes of what you notice and what errors you made and what are repeated so you know what to fix. If you wing it every time without thinking well..improvement will be mich slower.
You also seem to be thinking about features in symbolic ways still instead of learning from the observation studies what shapes features actually make.
If you don't get used to using your brain to actually identify very specific concrete issues in your drawings and fix them you will not be able to improve as fast.
Post work in the discord. Feedback will be better and faster than you will usually get in the forum.
The biggest problem I run into is the fact that I spend hours trying to figure out whats wrong with what I've just drawn only to come up with "everything looks wrong.". I can walk alway and come back only to find the same thing.
On the subject on note taking, can you show me some good examples on the proper way to do this. I'm willing to give it a try since I can't seem to correct everything.
I'll try to post my work on discord. It just looks like everyone else there is so much farther along than I am.
(08-19-2018, 09:57 PM)RickRichards Wrote: Yo man! Good to see that you´re studying the classics i.e. classic movies portraiture.I do have tons of trouble with proportions and measurement. I'm trying to work on it as best I can yet I continue to get it wrong.
Did a very simple breakdown to help you consider 2 things; simple breakdown of value but firstly, proportion and measurements.
Try a Andrew Loomis, it will help you greatly.
Cheers!!
Yes I tried Andrew Loomis. The heads I posted earlier are based off of what I have learned from his studies.
(08-20-2018, 06:19 AM)darktiste Wrote: Well good job you almost did 100 but the goal is not the number it the quality what drawing book you have to study from?Maybe i can help you progress in a logical way in those book.Ah those heads were from imagination. I formed them by drawing a sphere then the brow line (or rather the center line/circle of the sphere, first horizontal then vertical).
Did you draw from reference of from imagination?
I recommend you take the image Amit dutta gave you and take the time to apply the construction to those head also.You don't necessarly have to add the indication of light for the moment because you need to focus on the construction that are is still fragile.
And to compliment the construction from imagination you need to also supplement with drawing from life to understand the feature and the relation of the element of the face.
I recommend that you construct the head from reference instead of imagination for the moment and you assign a number to each head to relate it to a reference image.
The point i wanna stress is reference,construction,accuracy,no shadow or light.
You got good result at the begin of the 100 but you seem to have lost patience overtime it not a race.
I did lose my patience since these were taking a lot longer than i felt was necessary. Unfortunately it didn't work out too well.
I really do want to improve on my accuracy and construction but, I feel like there is something I'm missing or not doing.
It's been a while since I posted. I've been busy with various things; Unfortunately, in spite of my efforts, I have not made any progress towards finding anyone to mentor me. I really wanted to find someone who could walk me through some of the more basic parts that I was having trouble with but, I just can't find anyone. I tried speaking with people who work in art supply stores but they lead me back to the local classes I've already taken.
The only thing I've really learned is that the city I live in does not care about representational art at all. Why is it so hard to find? Are things like commercial illustration a lost art?