02-28-2014, 06:21 PM
Yeah sorry, i did use the wrong choice of word. :) not bagging the discussion at all, more power to it. Hehe, just I got quickly ass deep into a discussion that wasn't what I expected...was just being a tad sarcastic.
Anyway Doolio, I totally get your anti-hype stance. I will raise your anti-hype stance by one anti-mainstream stance. I am guilty of this and so am often dubious about recommendations like this made to me. In fact I begrdugingly watched the wire fully expecting it to be crap and over hyped, but besides one other show, it totally surprised me, which is why I now do what I never do with movies or tv, and that is recommend it to others. I won't go any further because I will leave the treat of discovering it to your own timeframe, but in terms of a non norm character, hardcore bad ass black gay projects stickup dude. It sounds almost like some ridiculous caricature but he was one of my favorite characters in the series. All the characters show real nuance and development and just feel real. It's not forced...it doesn't use "grittiness" as a tool, for example shitty hand held non steadycam camera work that we've all seen...it feels gritty because the characters and situations feel so real. The acting and dialogue is superb too. What happens when you have actually good script writers working for you. Hollywood assholes could learn a lot from this team. It's basically the way real tv shows should be...ie teach you something insightful about yourslef, something about the world as well as be plain entertaining. But yeah, enough said.
I love Kubrick, I totally gel with his stuff, so yeah funny how different we all see things. Tarkovsky absolutely blew me away. Valhalla rising I enjoyed, but i sensed an undercurrent of trying a bit too hard to be vague for the sake of it which I didn't really like so much.
Btw Doolio, as the anime buff what do you think of serial experiments Lain? I figure it would be right up your alley. I loved it.
Oh damn also....if you haven't seen it yet... Twin Peaks!!
David Lynch is seriously messed and awesome. Also what about David Cronenberg stuff? Existenz, naked lunch, the fly, scanners, videodrome etc
And I like Nolan, enjoyable brain-off food and an entertaining 3 hours or whatever, but if he is the best of the bunch well....for me personally, I'm just so over this lame superhero tripe/meme hollywood just won't leave alone until it's flogged and bleeding and they extract every last cent out of it. Its almost like the two hour or whatever long scene of jesus walking up to golgotha in the passion of the christ, with multiple and repeated slow motion collapsings and gettings up...just put him, me and everone else out of our misery already. What could have been done in 5 minutes was dragged and scraped over hours. I guess i just think most superheros are past their use by date in terms of relevance to current society, but I'm probably in the extremely small minority on that one.I mean for f@s sake, they already treat us like morons by forcing their regurgitated crap onto us, which we seem to keep going to and paying for. I have a brain. I like having it. I particularly enjoy when it is suitably stimulated, not dulled down by the other hordes of moronic zombies that seems to be the target audience of blockbusters these days.
I also don't quite get the attitude of,"if you switch your brain off it will be fun" ala pacific rim and its ilk. And i was so let down considering it was a del toro movie....i mean wtf happened???..pan's labyrinth, pacific rim, pan's labyrinth, pacific rim. What the absolute f@ck del toro? Talk about totally losing your mojo. I actually watched the original Gojira for the first time back to back before watching PRim and I can honestly say Gojira was the better movie in almost every way, including the effects! A dude in a gojira suit is beyond entertainment value :) I mean are we really at that stage with an art form, where turning off your thinking functioning bits is considered a need to have to enjoy something. I may as well just draw hentai or furry porn, tell people to switch off their brains and it will be good, and not worry about a damn thing from then on.Jesus. Don't get me started,
Anyway Doolio, I totally get your anti-hype stance. I will raise your anti-hype stance by one anti-mainstream stance. I am guilty of this and so am often dubious about recommendations like this made to me. In fact I begrdugingly watched the wire fully expecting it to be crap and over hyped, but besides one other show, it totally surprised me, which is why I now do what I never do with movies or tv, and that is recommend it to others. I won't go any further because I will leave the treat of discovering it to your own timeframe, but in terms of a non norm character, hardcore bad ass black gay projects stickup dude. It sounds almost like some ridiculous caricature but he was one of my favorite characters in the series. All the characters show real nuance and development and just feel real. It's not forced...it doesn't use "grittiness" as a tool, for example shitty hand held non steadycam camera work that we've all seen...it feels gritty because the characters and situations feel so real. The acting and dialogue is superb too. What happens when you have actually good script writers working for you. Hollywood assholes could learn a lot from this team. It's basically the way real tv shows should be...ie teach you something insightful about yourslef, something about the world as well as be plain entertaining. But yeah, enough said.
I love Kubrick, I totally gel with his stuff, so yeah funny how different we all see things. Tarkovsky absolutely blew me away. Valhalla rising I enjoyed, but i sensed an undercurrent of trying a bit too hard to be vague for the sake of it which I didn't really like so much.
Btw Doolio, as the anime buff what do you think of serial experiments Lain? I figure it would be right up your alley. I loved it.
Oh damn also....if you haven't seen it yet... Twin Peaks!!
David Lynch is seriously messed and awesome. Also what about David Cronenberg stuff? Existenz, naked lunch, the fly, scanners, videodrome etc
And I like Nolan, enjoyable brain-off food and an entertaining 3 hours or whatever, but if he is the best of the bunch well....for me personally, I'm just so over this lame superhero tripe/meme hollywood just won't leave alone until it's flogged and bleeding and they extract every last cent out of it. Its almost like the two hour or whatever long scene of jesus walking up to golgotha in the passion of the christ, with multiple and repeated slow motion collapsings and gettings up...just put him, me and everone else out of our misery already. What could have been done in 5 minutes was dragged and scraped over hours. I guess i just think most superheros are past their use by date in terms of relevance to current society, but I'm probably in the extremely small minority on that one.I mean for f@s sake, they already treat us like morons by forcing their regurgitated crap onto us, which we seem to keep going to and paying for. I have a brain. I like having it. I particularly enjoy when it is suitably stimulated, not dulled down by the other hordes of moronic zombies that seems to be the target audience of blockbusters these days.
I also don't quite get the attitude of,"if you switch your brain off it will be fun" ala pacific rim and its ilk. And i was so let down considering it was a del toro movie....i mean wtf happened???..pan's labyrinth, pacific rim, pan's labyrinth, pacific rim. What the absolute f@ck del toro? Talk about totally losing your mojo. I actually watched the original Gojira for the first time back to back before watching PRim and I can honestly say Gojira was the better movie in almost every way, including the effects! A dude in a gojira suit is beyond entertainment value :) I mean are we really at that stage with an art form, where turning off your thinking functioning bits is considered a need to have to enjoy something. I may as well just draw hentai or furry porn, tell people to switch off their brains and it will be good, and not worry about a damn thing from then on.Jesus. Don't get me started,