05-03-2023, 07:56 PM
CGM: Thanks!
Leo: The 'paint over the top' for me is mostly color picking and fixing any areas that look weird still. Or adding details where it's just easier and faster to color pick and paint here and there. If you try it once or twice, just do whichever is faster and easier; you can try to get the adjustment layer folders' masks really close and do very little paintover at the end, or you can be a little sloppy and spend more time in the paintover stage. The reason to try to do it as much as possible with the folder masks is that you can change your mind at any point, of course, and change the colors.
Having a big layer stack is annoying to work with, but for me it's balanced out by giving me confidence in the workflow. Your mileage may vary. I know a lot of people out there use very few layers or blend modes and do some amazing stuff.
The hair stuff... The first page was trying different ideas and most of them weren't what I was looking for, but the second page things started to make more sense. The drawing to the right of the painting is a study I did off an AI/Stable Diffusion image. But that's all my drawing, no actual AI in it.
The two drawings with arrows pointing at them are Stable Diffusion interpretations of the drawing above.
I will be sure to mark the AI stuff more clearly as I definitely intend to use it more. I know people are rightfully unhappy about AI and I've certainly been part of a bunch of discussions along those lines. However, if everyone else in the world who's not an artist is going to take advantage of this tech, then you can bet I will too. I won't be taking credit for the stuff the AI generates, but I will be using it to create reference and variations of my own works.
I actually had a conversation about this earlier today. I was trying to convince someone that AI was useful as a reference and learning tool. With his permission, I took one of his quick sketches and Img2Img it into eight more refined drawings, picked the best out of that bunch, turned it into a 'controlnet' image, and then turned that into eight rendered illustrations. Somehow, in his opinion, that wasn't all that useful. To go from a five minute sketch to having eight possible finished looking paintings in a few more minutes. Seems useful to me.
Here's what I mean. Here are a couple of my old quick sketches that I used controlnet on. And keep in mind, you can generate a lot of variations. These are the ones I liked the best.
If you don't want to use any AI stuff because you hate it too much, I can honestly respect that. But thinking this isn't useful? C'mon.
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Leo: The 'paint over the top' for me is mostly color picking and fixing any areas that look weird still. Or adding details where it's just easier and faster to color pick and paint here and there. If you try it once or twice, just do whichever is faster and easier; you can try to get the adjustment layer folders' masks really close and do very little paintover at the end, or you can be a little sloppy and spend more time in the paintover stage. The reason to try to do it as much as possible with the folder masks is that you can change your mind at any point, of course, and change the colors.
Having a big layer stack is annoying to work with, but for me it's balanced out by giving me confidence in the workflow. Your mileage may vary. I know a lot of people out there use very few layers or blend modes and do some amazing stuff.
The hair stuff... The first page was trying different ideas and most of them weren't what I was looking for, but the second page things started to make more sense. The drawing to the right of the painting is a study I did off an AI/Stable Diffusion image. But that's all my drawing, no actual AI in it.
The two drawings with arrows pointing at them are Stable Diffusion interpretations of the drawing above.
I will be sure to mark the AI stuff more clearly as I definitely intend to use it more. I know people are rightfully unhappy about AI and I've certainly been part of a bunch of discussions along those lines. However, if everyone else in the world who's not an artist is going to take advantage of this tech, then you can bet I will too. I won't be taking credit for the stuff the AI generates, but I will be using it to create reference and variations of my own works.
I actually had a conversation about this earlier today. I was trying to convince someone that AI was useful as a reference and learning tool. With his permission, I took one of his quick sketches and Img2Img it into eight more refined drawings, picked the best out of that bunch, turned it into a 'controlnet' image, and then turned that into eight rendered illustrations. Somehow, in his opinion, that wasn't all that useful. To go from a five minute sketch to having eight possible finished looking paintings in a few more minutes. Seems useful to me.
Here's what I mean. Here are a couple of my old quick sketches that I used controlnet on. And keep in mind, you can generate a lot of variations. These are the ones I liked the best.
If you don't want to use any AI stuff because you hate it too much, I can honestly respect that. But thinking this isn't useful? C'mon.