25 Feb 00:24

constructicon

I have done a class on schoolism

25 Feb 00:24

Gliger

If I could go to red engine, I wouldn't hesitate, because it's workshop based, you learn on your own, and then you get the benefit of the lectures and the crits

25 Feb 00:24

Nous

have you done them?

25 Feb 00:24

constructicon

schoolism...take good care: foundation stuff like robertrson is very good

25 Feb 00:24

Nous

Yeah there's the online thing now, and they are expensive courses! A lot of pros are doing the cgma stuff.

25 Feb 00:23

Gliger

but you can also take a course on schoolism or something

25 Feb 00:23

Gliger

If you can get crits from scott robertson, feng zhu etc. on a daily bases, that will make you improve super fast

25 Feb 00:23

Nous

yes gilgler in some ways I have doubt that if I don't go to artschool I;ve missed out on something. I dont why that is, but it's nagging.

25 Feb 00:22

Gliger

just work hard, you can do it on your own, there are advantages and disadvantages to going to artschool

25 Feb 00:22

Nous

Ha, kemp rilliard, Jan Urschel, and Eduardo Pena, say that their graphic design education was indispensible.

25 Feb 00:21

Nous

yes and he developed it over the years. It's important to be surrounding by a good eco-system of artists. If your isolated this can be difficult.

25 Feb 00:21

Gliger

IT'S FUCKING NOT

25 Feb 00:21

Gliger

NO

25 Feb 00:21

constructicon

graphic design is a waste of time imo

25 Feb 00:20

Gliger

are you afraid that if you don't go to artschool you won't be as good as you can be?

25 Feb 00:20

constructicon

luck, hmmmm maybe, but his work speaks is outstanding

25 Feb 00:20

Nous

Yeah but graphic design is an excellent founcdation for concept art.

25 Feb 00:20

Nous

Kemp got lucky to get accepted into the best studio talent in the industry - mb.

25 Feb 00:20

constructicon

he studied graphic design - neither concept art nor illustration

25 Feb 00:19

constructicon

kemp remillard from massive black!

25 Feb 00:19

Gliger

Because pros learn stuff by themselves, they develop their own techniques, and go deeper into some fundamentals than others, they have a lot of stuff to teach

25 Feb 00:19

Nous

I'll give it to Negra who is simply a savant. Jones at least lived in California.

25 Feb 00:18

Nous

Like why are pros taking courses online or going to ateliers?

25 Feb 00:18

Gliger

Anthony Jones and Alex Negrea are better than 99% of other people who have been painting for the same time while going to artschool

25 Feb 00:17

Nous

Even faster the trends are in concept art.

25 Feb 00:17

constructicon

well I`m not really into illustration but concept art

25 Feb 00:17

Nous

I'll say that things are now faster to learn, and trends come quicker in the illustrative/art field.

25 Feb 00:16

Nous

Yeah but think how better these guys could have been - like rigney for instance had to learn all the pitfalls himself, yet with proper crit he may have avoided half the mistakes.

25 Feb 00:15

Gliger

James gurney is from like, 1956 or something, the internet didn't exist back then, not going to artschool wasn't really an option

25 Feb 00:13

Gliger

brad rigney didn't go either

25 Feb 00:12

Gliger

like dan luvisi, alvin lee, they didn't go to artschool

25 Feb 00:12

Nous

Both