02 Aug 08:41
--It's more a motivation thing I suppose, and when we are getting less and less entries it makes it a bit sad really. I figure it's just the way with forums. They really are kinda dying in the art arena anyway if the pros will stay out in social media land, that's where everyone else will be
02 Aug 08:39
--technically nothing really. It does take a bit of time to do everything. All up it might be all up 5-10 hours a month each for Piotr and I since we've setup the system. So it's manageable. We've easily put in hundred+ hours in total. The biggest effort really is in running around after judges.
02 Aug 08:32
--@amit, what are the issues you're having keeping it up? just not enough entrants or followthrough or time?
02 Aug 08:31
--yeah, that was me for this last one, except I didn't even put together a WIP thread lol
02 Aug 08:25
--i get that, a lot of people get excited about a new challenge, put up some quick studies than don't come back to it until the end of the month, and you have to chastise them to keep working. not fun im sure. Maybe take more of a sink or swim approach?
02 Aug 08:23
--Yeah, I just don't want this to become a hand-holding exercise either...it started to feel that way a little
02 Aug 08:22
--Just put a disclaimer for entries 'You're work will be up for future critique, again, and again, and again...' and have some retrospective streams of frequent entrants to make sure they ARE utilising that knowledge. Would help viewers see how to apply their own feedback they've received.
02 Aug 08:21
--haha, of course it's worth it for you guys...I was thinking very selfishly bout myself :)
02 Aug 08:20
--yeah, it must be kind of a bummer to put them together and find judges and then only get a handful of entries, but on the bright side of that, you might be able to do like CC04 and go through and crit all the entires if there's not too too many. That stream was really great
02 Aug 08:20
--It has been enlightening for me, every challenge brings up new major things that clearly people struggle with, and the biggest issues aren't the technical side of things most of the time, but those things are hugely important when you are working for clients.. One of the biggest ones is reading the damn brief, and the next, applying client feedback
02 Aug 08:18
--Yep for sure! I'm not intentionally being down on people for not acting how I want, I was just wondering about the effort involved in continuing CC that's all.
02 Aug 08:17
--Well Amit, having this discussion alone will motivate people to consider strongly the advice judges give them and put it to practice. This was only CC5, so consider it only a few turns of the engine before it gets going.
02 Aug 08:17
--Most of the challenges to date, have been focused on exactly the kind of briefs you might get as a working pro. 3 weeks isn't a particularly long deadline. I've had much much longer, and a little bit shorter. Shortest deadline was probably a week.
02 Aug 08:16
--speaking of which, does anyone know if the entries and streams for the first couple bloodsports still exist? Seeing those crits is always helpful
02 Aug 08:15
--but for instance i dont want to put my cc5 entry in my folio, so fixing it wouldnt make much sense for me, but the crit is still super helpful
02 Aug 08:14
--that makes sense, although I would think it would be good training for eventual employment. Clients expect stuff pretty quickly don't they? I understand those of us taking part in the challenges aren't pros, but that's the eventual goal right? CHOW sounds good too :)
02 Aug 08:14
--personally i always watch the crits and try to not make the same mistakes next time after i'm aware of them, thats how i use them
02 Aug 08:14
--Cool Rocket go for it. Tons of useful info hidden in the crit sessions probably! We did think about the team challenge it is something we will do at some point.
