05-29-2016, 10:58 AM
...so basically it sounds like you're upset that 'young' artists are doing things in a backwards way because they don't know what it is that they don't know. I have similar feelings when I see cats trying to open a can of tuna when they have no can opener...or opposable thumbs...poor cats.
I'm not sure if I'm beating a dead horse already with this rambling bullshit.
1a. Gesture drawing is great! It forces one to focus on the shorthand of what makes 'the feeling of a thing' without getting bogged down by so many technical details due to lack of time [focus on the whole instead of the sum of the parts]. Gesture practice can allow one to focus on proportion, weight, rhythm, simplification, emotional context [the feeling of a thing]. There's more to 'gesture' than just human body parts...boats, giraffe, tree, ...etc all have 'gesture'. It's important to know 'what does a penguin feel like?' as well as 'what is the construction of a penguin?'
1b. People doing things in an inefficient way doesn't make the activity inherently bad.
2. Learning what it is that you don't know is hard. I felt a lot like a seal in a desert for the first few years. It's going to take years just to figure out what is actually important. Everyone will take a slightly different path based on personality and interests. You didn't learn how to walk or talk on the first try, as you didn't know what you the hell you were doing, learning takes time and successive failures. The mechanical aspect of speaking is important, but so is building a vocabulary and understanding grammar, and then learning how to condense ideas into succinct sentences instead of rambling run-on sentences like this one takes years, and some people never fully grasp how to do this [ i hope the point hits home by the inclusion of such a run-on sentence].
Instruction can help focus an individual, but they have to figure shit out for themselves at some point. Learning how to learn for internalization is probably the most useful tool you can have as a human...
3. There is only fundamentals to learn, and many are abstract concepts which will take years to internalize so that one can manipulate at will. I cringe when I see some discussion about flighty topics like 'edges' when it's actually value relationships/contrast [the fundamental] that is the elephant in the room. Edges are a thing, but they're just not that important unless you understand the underlying fundamental behind what makes them a thing.
4. I went to dinner and forgot what I was rambling about. I had sushi. Process is a means to an end and a way of managing hierarchy of thought. I see many 'young' artists get caught up in the trap of 'process'... It is very easy to get trapped and very difficult to get out of the trap. As artists, we explore these abstract 'fundamental' concepts, not processes. Unless you are a fine artist and making some exposition about ephemerality of creation, then maybe your art is really only about the process and the end product is moot.
5. There is no Five. I'm not even sure why I'm writing this post.
I'm not sure if I'm beating a dead horse already with this rambling bullshit.
1a. Gesture drawing is great! It forces one to focus on the shorthand of what makes 'the feeling of a thing' without getting bogged down by so many technical details due to lack of time [focus on the whole instead of the sum of the parts]. Gesture practice can allow one to focus on proportion, weight, rhythm, simplification, emotional context [the feeling of a thing]. There's more to 'gesture' than just human body parts...boats, giraffe, tree, ...etc all have 'gesture'. It's important to know 'what does a penguin feel like?' as well as 'what is the construction of a penguin?'
1b. People doing things in an inefficient way doesn't make the activity inherently bad.
2. Learning what it is that you don't know is hard. I felt a lot like a seal in a desert for the first few years. It's going to take years just to figure out what is actually important. Everyone will take a slightly different path based on personality and interests. You didn't learn how to walk or talk on the first try, as you didn't know what you the hell you were doing, learning takes time and successive failures. The mechanical aspect of speaking is important, but so is building a vocabulary and understanding grammar, and then learning how to condense ideas into succinct sentences instead of rambling run-on sentences like this one takes years, and some people never fully grasp how to do this [ i hope the point hits home by the inclusion of such a run-on sentence].
Instruction can help focus an individual, but they have to figure shit out for themselves at some point. Learning how to learn for internalization is probably the most useful tool you can have as a human...
3. There is only fundamentals to learn, and many are abstract concepts which will take years to internalize so that one can manipulate at will. I cringe when I see some discussion about flighty topics like 'edges' when it's actually value relationships/contrast [the fundamental] that is the elephant in the room. Edges are a thing, but they're just not that important unless you understand the underlying fundamental behind what makes them a thing.
4. I went to dinner and forgot what I was rambling about. I had sushi. Process is a means to an end and a way of managing hierarchy of thought. I see many 'young' artists get caught up in the trap of 'process'... It is very easy to get trapped and very difficult to get out of the trap. As artists, we explore these abstract 'fundamental' concepts, not processes. Unless you are a fine artist and making some exposition about ephemerality of creation, then maybe your art is really only about the process and the end product is moot.
5. There is no Five. I'm not even sure why I'm writing this post.