02-29-2024, 07:10 PM
@JosephCow
Thanks for that brilliant response! A very keen take, I thought. Regarding your own 'definition' of it, I can't really argue with you nor invalidate it; I fully appreciate your point of view and find it to be very interesting in contrast to my own. Etymologists would agree with you, I think, in that the ancestor word of "art" in Greek meant a "skill", so that there was no sense in ancient times in using that word without it applying to something either being done or made with intention and care.
Yes, you're right, it is the better thing to simply ignore and go away from that which we don't like, rather than furiously rage about its existence.
Yes, I'm sure you're right that I have been 'desensitised' to a degree.
And thanks for the insight into that person I met's perspective also.
I think your analogy with music works well. Unfortunately I find it difficult to even listen to same music-track again in general.
I found the "deviantart.com" site for the first time the other day. I maintain that I would probably still find hanging pictures on my wall (well, there are in fact a couple actually, they are the landlord's that I cannot take down) to be annoying. Though I have to say there were at least a couple of pictures on the homepage of that site that I thought to myself that I could possibly enjoy hanging those pictures on my wall: perhaps it was because they were made in an "animation" style that I'm very familiar with, and so perhaps they carry with them not only their face aesthetic value but also a lot of the history and experience I have with that culture.
To paraphrase you, you say art is born when forms are made with the intention to entertain or engage an audience. Does it follow for you that 'better' art is usually proportional to the skill of the artist? By 'better' here, I mean, I guess, more enjoyable subjectively to yourself and others who have tastes similar to your own. Because I would agree with that in general. Personally, rarely do I find that the works I enjoy the most are made with LESS skill than those I find to be boring.
Thanks for that brilliant response! A very keen take, I thought. Regarding your own 'definition' of it, I can't really argue with you nor invalidate it; I fully appreciate your point of view and find it to be very interesting in contrast to my own. Etymologists would agree with you, I think, in that the ancestor word of "art" in Greek meant a "skill", so that there was no sense in ancient times in using that word without it applying to something either being done or made with intention and care.
Yes, you're right, it is the better thing to simply ignore and go away from that which we don't like, rather than furiously rage about its existence.
Yes, I'm sure you're right that I have been 'desensitised' to a degree.
And thanks for the insight into that person I met's perspective also.
I think your analogy with music works well. Unfortunately I find it difficult to even listen to same music-track again in general.
I found the "deviantart.com" site for the first time the other day. I maintain that I would probably still find hanging pictures on my wall (well, there are in fact a couple actually, they are the landlord's that I cannot take down) to be annoying. Though I have to say there were at least a couple of pictures on the homepage of that site that I thought to myself that I could possibly enjoy hanging those pictures on my wall: perhaps it was because they were made in an "animation" style that I'm very familiar with, and so perhaps they carry with them not only their face aesthetic value but also a lot of the history and experience I have with that culture.
To paraphrase you, you say art is born when forms are made with the intention to entertain or engage an audience. Does it follow for you that 'better' art is usually proportional to the skill of the artist? By 'better' here, I mean, I guess, more enjoyable subjectively to yourself and others who have tastes similar to your own. Because I would agree with that in general. Personally, rarely do I find that the works I enjoy the most are made with LESS skill than those I find to be boring.