Rognoll's Sketchbook
Hey man!
your drawings are really cool and the character's character really shows. they're really vibrant. your line stuff is really expressive and the detailing on the two knight characters is really cool!

a crit/suggestion on the knight with the shield would be to add the "thickness" side of the shield and the shield's handle, we can only see one plane but we should be able to see the sides too. you've sort of implied them by making the line thicker but i think it would be a good idea to practice going the full way and outlining the plane itself and to get in the habit of doing that

as for the enviros, in the first one i think the problem is how messy it is, its hard to tell apart the fore, mid and background.
i think cleaning up the lines can help with this - drawing the elements more carefully and being more deliberate with the lines, which ones are thick and thin. as a given, foreground lines should be thicker in general, but still get thinner as they recede. mid and background elements would have less lines and thiner lines - you're already doing this to an extent, but to me it seems going further and making it universal across the image would be the best bet. you can do it with these very two images, rather than a new one, so you can get a proper grasp of the difference, and to actually focus on that particular exercise instead of having to fight two battles (one of making a new image and design, and two of also incorporating the new line ideas. this way you get two birds with one stone: you get to improve these pictures you've already made, and you get to practice the line stuff in relative isolation).
the other thing i think is that the further back in the background something is, the less detailing it should have. in the 2nd enviro this already works pretty well, in the 1st one i think there is a bit too much line gradation on the background elements, which sort of makes the whole thing messy.

the way i'd personally approach this, is to open a copy of the environment, set the layer opacity to 10% so you can faintly see it, and then on a new layer, redraw the whole thing, being very careful and deliberate with making the elements separate and cleanly drawn. zoom in for squiggly bits like windows.

finally, have you tried any of the 3d construction "wrap around" practices? sort of like wrapping lines around the 3d-ness of your objects. it's a helpful way of making forms more apparent both in your mind and to the viewer.

ok man good work :)

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Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-25-2013, 01:27 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-28-2013, 11:04 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by mdbauman - 05-28-2013, 05:22 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-29-2013, 01:14 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-29-2013, 01:56 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-01-2013, 08:18 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-04-2013, 04:59 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-09-2013, 03:06 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-11-2013, 09:48 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-12-2013, 06:17 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-14-2013, 09:27 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 06-15-2013, 09:44 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Art.ful - 06-14-2013, 09:33 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-15-2013, 01:45 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-15-2013, 09:50 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-20-2013, 09:28 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Yuzero - 06-20-2013, 08:07 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Damien Levs - 06-21-2013, 05:35 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 06-22-2013, 04:25 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-22-2013, 12:04 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by MarkWester - 07-10-2013, 06:20 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-23-2013, 03:12 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Lady Shanta - 06-23-2013, 05:54 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-23-2013, 07:41 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Heavenwill - 06-23-2013, 09:13 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Ron - 06-25-2013, 11:43 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 06-25-2013, 04:09 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-27-2013, 09:49 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by anzhou - 06-27-2013, 12:33 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 06-27-2013, 05:09 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Beeston - 06-27-2013, 11:34 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-27-2013, 12:59 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Lex_paul - 06-27-2013, 05:33 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-28-2013, 06:53 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by anzhou - 06-28-2013, 08:57 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by smrr - 06-28-2013, 09:34 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 06-28-2013, 03:52 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by smrr - 06-29-2013, 08:43 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-03-2013, 11:22 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-04-2013, 06:34 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-05-2013, 08:50 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-10-2013, 01:54 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 07-12-2013, 01:43 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by OtherMuzz - 07-10-2013, 02:35 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-10-2013, 03:01 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-10-2013, 05:27 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 07-10-2013, 10:58 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-11-2013, 07:59 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by aks9 - 07-12-2013, 10:52 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by MajaD - 07-13-2013, 01:22 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-14-2013, 08:24 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-16-2013, 10:40 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-16-2013, 03:11 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-19-2013, 03:43 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by anzhou - 07-20-2013, 04:23 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 07-23-2013, 10:36 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-24-2013, 12:21 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Ron - 07-25-2013, 06:31 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-25-2013, 07:37 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by crackedskull - 07-25-2013, 04:15 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 07-26-2013, 12:47 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-26-2013, 11:11 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Ron - 07-27-2013, 01:36 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 07-27-2013, 02:55 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 07-31-2013, 03:10 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 08-01-2013, 05:37 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-01-2013, 05:54 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-02-2013, 03:18 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Asmodius - 08-02-2013, 04:35 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by smrr - 08-03-2013, 12:25 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-03-2013, 02:06 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-06-2013, 04:11 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-07-2013, 02:43 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by EduardoGaray - 08-07-2013, 08:43 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-07-2013, 03:39 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-09-2013, 02:15 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Archreux - 08-10-2013, 05:36 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-10-2013, 02:16 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 08-10-2013, 04:48 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-15-2013, 04:32 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-16-2013, 02:03 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-21-2013, 02:41 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-21-2013, 03:49 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Olooriel - 08-21-2013, 11:42 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-22-2013, 02:03 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-22-2013, 08:56 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Ursula Dorada - 08-22-2013, 09:18 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 08-22-2013, 10:14 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Olooriel - 08-22-2013, 07:35 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 08-23-2013, 02:33 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-27-2013, 01:01 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-28-2013, 09:39 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 08-28-2013, 10:12 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-28-2013, 04:21 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by vansty - 08-28-2013, 05:09 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 08-28-2013, 05:27 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 08-29-2013, 04:19 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 09-01-2013, 03:30 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Matija Vuk - 09-05-2013, 05:28 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 09-06-2013, 03:30 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Matija Vuk - 09-06-2013, 03:34 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 09-07-2013, 11:57 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Archreux - 09-07-2013, 12:32 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by JonVenske - 09-09-2013, 03:13 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 09-11-2013, 08:56 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Felidarc - 09-11-2013, 06:43 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Joe777k7 - 09-12-2013, 06:04 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 09-12-2013, 11:54 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 10-02-2013, 03:43 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 09-12-2013, 06:54 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by ramalooke - 09-12-2013, 09:24 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-04-2013, 08:19 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Nika - 10-04-2013, 08:31 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-04-2013, 08:50 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kerm - 10-04-2013, 07:11 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-11-2013, 06:30 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-15-2013, 11:21 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-16-2013, 01:21 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-17-2013, 02:27 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Prabu - 10-17-2013, 02:53 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 10-17-2013, 04:59 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-17-2013, 06:41 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-18-2013, 04:41 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-18-2013, 11:20 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-19-2013, 10:06 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Ignatz - 10-19-2013, 09:33 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-22-2013, 06:09 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-22-2013, 12:02 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-23-2013, 05:44 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-24-2013, 11:43 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Ralee - 10-24-2013, 11:53 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-25-2013, 08:16 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by ramalooke - 10-25-2013, 04:36 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kerm - 10-25-2013, 06:38 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-26-2013, 02:07 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 10-26-2013, 03:16 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kerm - 10-27-2013, 05:01 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-29-2013, 04:13 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Einver - 10-29-2013, 09:16 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-29-2013, 01:29 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Einver - 10-30-2013, 12:14 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-30-2013, 01:37 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-31-2013, 03:44 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kikindaface - 10-31-2013, 04:42 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-31-2013, 05:33 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 10-31-2013, 11:27 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by crackedskull - 10-31-2013, 01:06 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by smrr - 11-01-2013, 07:13 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-02-2013, 10:49 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-07-2013, 04:49 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-07-2013, 06:54 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Nika - 11-07-2013, 07:00 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-08-2013, 04:40 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 11-09-2013, 06:17 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tatar88 - 11-09-2013, 09:58 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kikindaface - 11-09-2013, 11:41 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-14-2013, 07:05 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-22-2013, 01:00 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-22-2013, 06:14 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-23-2013, 10:03 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kerm - 11-23-2013, 11:02 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by califfguzman - 11-24-2013, 01:05 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-27-2013, 07:49 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kerm - 11-27-2013, 07:05 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 11-28-2013, 03:19 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by smrr - 11-28-2013, 06:20 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kerm - 11-28-2013, 07:31 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 12-03-2013, 12:03 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 12-06-2013, 02:23 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Archreux - 12-06-2013, 06:42 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 12-06-2013, 07:21 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by ramalooke - 12-06-2013, 05:46 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by kerm - 12-07-2013, 10:00 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Nika - 12-11-2013, 11:23 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Mike Tenebrae - 12-12-2013, 01:01 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 12-17-2013, 07:30 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 12-17-2013, 07:58 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by ramalooke - 12-18-2013, 05:46 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 12-19-2013, 09:36 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Nika - 12-19-2013, 10:28 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 12-20-2013, 01:38 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 12-20-2013, 07:15 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by ramalooke - 12-20-2013, 05:16 PM
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RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-07-2014, 02:20 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-08-2014, 10:52 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-09-2014, 09:55 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 01-09-2014, 01:15 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-10-2014, 02:18 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-11-2014, 03:58 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Swibble - 01-11-2014, 05:13 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 01-15-2014, 04:24 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-17-2014, 08:52 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Adzerak - 01-17-2014, 09:14 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-17-2014, 10:04 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-22-2014, 02:48 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by ramalooke - 01-22-2014, 04:24 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 01-25-2014, 02:18 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Adam Lina - 01-25-2014, 02:39 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Nika - 01-25-2014, 10:32 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by atrenr - 01-25-2014, 02:04 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Jaik - 01-26-2014, 09:11 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 02-13-2014, 08:20 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 02-14-2014, 02:13 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 04-03-2014, 01:48 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 04-18-2014, 04:33 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by meat - 04-18-2014, 05:32 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Gliger - 04-18-2014, 05:43 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 04-18-2014, 04:11 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Kaffer - 04-18-2014, 07:47 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 04-21-2014, 10:04 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 04-26-2014, 09:11 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by aks9 - 04-26-2014, 09:49 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by crackedskull - 04-27-2014, 04:40 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-03-2014, 09:59 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-08-2014, 10:20 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by meat - 05-08-2014, 11:45 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-10-2014, 10:42 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Samszym - 05-10-2014, 11:33 AM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by crackedskull - 05-10-2014, 11:53 PM
RE: Rognoll's Sketchbook - by Rognoll - 05-16-2014, 08:38 AM
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