08-10-2018, 06:12 PM
Hey guys, nice to be back, thanks for the comments:)
Yeah, I went for that kind of look. Everything you say, Darktiste, was actually done, but I didn't want to go too far away, I wanted it to have a scribble feel, though I went through croquis, sketching, positioning, bones, muscles etc. in order to make those scribbles, I didn't want them to not be scribbles (layers are also separated). After all, they are supposed to be kind of a themed daily sketch thing that takes no more than 30 minutes a piece, perhaps 20 minutes. I even think the Sakura one is a bit overdone, I tend to do that. Another reason for me trying to go for these sketches:) I personally think these took too much, though I can't complain, having an arm at all in the first place:D
As I basically wasn't able to do this for a few years, I actually need to have them even more sketchy and quicker, in order to get back to decent figure drawing, if that makes sense. My hand is crude now:)
Oh god, the anatomy is always lacking, especially in the leg department:) In order to tweak it, one has to know it really good, of course, I am far from that. I am MUCH more comfortable drawing a non-stylized figure, face etc. Which is why I am approaching manga stylization VERY cautiously and studiously, because it's so much harder to do it than to draw realistically. But with these sketches, I wanted to exercise a bit and to get back in "control", to put it that way. I am yet to see whether I can even do the "heavy workout" without messing up the arm. These are mainly to get me in shape to "do drawings". Which is the reason lines aren't longer, for example. I can't do longer lines at the moment, I wouldn't be able to draw for more than 20 minutes per day if I did that, sadly. So, I have to go for "quick and short", rather than those confident, long lines, so I try to at least compartmentalize them by some logic of shapes.
So,
Approaching the stylization studiously, I maintain the stance that it's way harder to draw a decent manga piece than, say, a baroque piece. Being good at anatomy, figure drawing etc. enables one to be, like, below-average in stylization. It's a huge bite to chew.
And even then, after all that, one has to realize when to break the rules, which is another huge bite to chew, as it's not arbitrary (for example, when to go for something that would be impossible to make in 3d anatomically - which is a big no-no in majority of approaches, manga is one of the exceptions, and when to not cross that line, which is extremely important in this kind of stylization).
Yeah, I went for that kind of look. Everything you say, Darktiste, was actually done, but I didn't want to go too far away, I wanted it to have a scribble feel, though I went through croquis, sketching, positioning, bones, muscles etc. in order to make those scribbles, I didn't want them to not be scribbles (layers are also separated). After all, they are supposed to be kind of a themed daily sketch thing that takes no more than 30 minutes a piece, perhaps 20 minutes. I even think the Sakura one is a bit overdone, I tend to do that. Another reason for me trying to go for these sketches:) I personally think these took too much, though I can't complain, having an arm at all in the first place:D
As I basically wasn't able to do this for a few years, I actually need to have them even more sketchy and quicker, in order to get back to decent figure drawing, if that makes sense. My hand is crude now:)
Oh god, the anatomy is always lacking, especially in the leg department:) In order to tweak it, one has to know it really good, of course, I am far from that. I am MUCH more comfortable drawing a non-stylized figure, face etc. Which is why I am approaching manga stylization VERY cautiously and studiously, because it's so much harder to do it than to draw realistically. But with these sketches, I wanted to exercise a bit and to get back in "control", to put it that way. I am yet to see whether I can even do the "heavy workout" without messing up the arm. These are mainly to get me in shape to "do drawings". Which is the reason lines aren't longer, for example. I can't do longer lines at the moment, I wouldn't be able to draw for more than 20 minutes per day if I did that, sadly. So, I have to go for "quick and short", rather than those confident, long lines, so I try to at least compartmentalize them by some logic of shapes.
So,
Quote:Even if you are going for manga-style it is important to practice real heads to get a good fundamental understanding of its form and anatomyI agree with that and not only that, I perhaps even disagree slightly in how much I agree:) I think the main lack of understanding any type of stylization comes from people mistakenly thinking there are less requirements for it than for a realistic piece. That's why all those "draw manga in xyz steps" frustrate me to no end, because some kid out there is trusting them - and why wouldn't they, it seems intuitive. Which is the notion they survive upon. But nothing can be further from truth. That's why people sometimes tell me I am "too constructive" with my approach to manga, but I disagree. I think that's just the notion of manga style being "floaty". When I went for analysis of certain styles, there was so much to them, in a very sober, constructive sense, that it made my head hurt.
Approaching the stylization studiously, I maintain the stance that it's way harder to draw a decent manga piece than, say, a baroque piece. Being good at anatomy, figure drawing etc. enables one to be, like, below-average in stylization. It's a huge bite to chew.
And even then, after all that, one has to realize when to break the rules, which is another huge bite to chew, as it's not arbitrary (for example, when to go for something that would be impossible to make in 3d anatomically - which is a big no-no in majority of approaches, manga is one of the exceptions, and when to not cross that line, which is extremely important in this kind of stylization).