Doolio's doodles
Guys, thanks for commenting and support:)

Hands and feet are sadly all done from reference, I still can't draw "normally", so I'm essentially "drunkenly" flowing without much pressure or delicacy:) So I found some references and done some loose semi-croquis. The first and the last picture are also done like that. The rest is from imagination. The fleshed out girls in space suits was done in the period I actually could move the stylus the way I want it to and sit more than ten minutes at once:)
With these loose studies from references I am also conducting a small "experiment" - will I get anything from it even if I don't actively apply the study afterwards. If yes, woohoo, if not, well, a new knowledge is gained:D

Angelique:
Ah, yes, that sucks, even more so because it just comes unnanounced:)

Thanks for the tips, I pretty much do all of that, beside some things. And I think there's where the individuality kicks in:) For example, I've tried tiger balm, that horse stuff, ben gay, deep relief and one more thing which I forgot how it's called and they all actually worsened my symptoms lol. Biofreeze was the only thing that, for me, did what it says on the box...
I haven't done the hotXcold baths, as I am not so sure about whether it's good for the nerves. Muscles and nerves often collide when it comes to treatment, which makes things a bit complicated:) For example, a hot bath relaxes my muscles, but the nerve symptoms go wild after it...

It just seems that all of us with similar problems wind up self assessing them and going by trial and error and at the end, we (hopefully) get better and our routines range from similar to vastly different or even directly opposed:)

Considering the nerves overall and "zenness", I was always into western psychology/eastern stuff combo, but haven't been very practical or consistent about actual application. We people are like that, we need to screw up ourselves visibly, before saying "well, I could do something about it":) Like getting to 300 pounds before saying "oh look, I'm fat":) But ok, what can you do... anyway, I have quite a few stuff in my arsenal to calm myself and on that side I am going extremely well, since I've actually put some of the know-how to use...

I think we are both similar with shoulders. I am also stressed (which, of course, I don't "see" consciously), which is known to infamously lock trapezoids and then you get neck, shoulder and back pain and headaches, because you effectively have your traps in spasm for like twenty years or so:) For that, as far as I know, meditation and conscious relaxation of muscles involved should do miracles. Like, "ok, I could relax my traps, even if I don't feel they are tensed", then you do it, and you do it again and you do it again and after half of minute you realize that your shoulders should be like three inches lower than where you make them to be:)

If you have neck pain, maybe it's cervical radiculopathy, it's an inflammation of a nerve root in neck, which go to the arm. It could cause head, neck, shoulder and arm pain and overall arm discomfort and it can emulate both carpal and cubital tunnel syndrome, as well as golfer's and tennis elbow. In my case it SHOULD have been that, but it seems it's not:)
Have you done emg?

If you have carpal tunnel, maybe daarken's post about his ergonomics setup can help you. Google it and you will find it for sure.

Thanks for the tips and comments:)

I got a bit carried away again, now i've resetted my arm a bit, I have to have more discipline - which is hard being a scribbomaniac:D

(05-18-2014, 02:42 AM)Hypnagogic_Haze Wrote: That sucks about your arm, man. Hope you find something that fixes your problem. I'd suggest strengthening your extensor muscles by wrapping a rubber band around the outsides of your fingers and opening your fingers against the resistance. I do this with thick rubber bands that they wrap broccoli together with at the supermarket. You might need to start with something with less tension like a hair band. Its pretty much a given that your flexor muscles will be over tightened from all the closed handed activities you do throughout the day like gripping a pencil, typing and grabbing things. Im not sure if the physicians you talked to mentioned this at all. It seems that a lot of medical professionals dont put a lot of effort into getting to the root of hand/arm problems like these. Doing quite a bit of research of your own would be very wise imo. Plus knowing more about the subject will help you communicate better with your doctors.

Well, that was my conclusion too, sadly. About the stretching, yes, I saw that on couple of places. Basically, flexors are often rigid, while extensors are less so, because, well, you don't hold a plate or shift gears with the back of your palm:) So yeah, we tend to claw up our whole arms. I added those and similar stretches to my to do list, but I am EXTREMELY cautious now, as I've learned the hard way that you can screw yourself up by overstretching even if you do very light stretches. So, now I am basically doing what you said, educating myself and cautiously trying stuff...

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